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Our ancient primate ancestors mostly had twins — humans don't, for a good evolutionary reason
Live Science ^ | 01/05/2025 | Tesla Monson, Jack McBride

Posted on 01/06/2025 11:28:11 AM PST by BenLurkin

The number of offspring a species has in a litter is phylogenetically conserved, meaning more similar in more closely related species. Deer tend to have one or two offspring, while canids and felids tend to have many more babies in each litter.

Almost all primate species give birth to just one baby, although there are exceptions. Several of the wet-nosed primates — including lemurs, lorises and galagos — and almost all of the marmosets and tamarins from South America give birth to twins.

Marmosets are primates that typically give birth to twins.
(Image credit: Tambako The Jaguar/flickr, CC BY-ND)

Prior to our work, researchers thought these distinctive twin-bearing primates must be what evolutionary biologists call derived, or different, from the more common, ancestral trait. But our research flips that narrative on its head: It's actually the singleton-bearing primates that are derived and distinctive. Further back in evolution, two babies at once was the norm. Our ancient primate ancestors gave birth to twins.

So, when did this evolutionary change in primate litter size occur?


Family tree of mammals surveyed for the study, also known as a phylogeny. The branches of the tree are labeled with colors that correspond to litter size. Darker colors indicate larger litter sizes, while lighter colors (oranges) indicate smaller litter sizes. The animal outlines are, from top to bottom, rodents, rabbits, primates, cetartiodactyls (whales and most hooved animals), carnivores, bats and shrews. (Image credit: Image modified from McBride and Monson, 2024)

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
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1 posted on 01/06/2025 11:28:11 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Moral of the story: Big animals have smaller litters?


2 posted on 01/06/2025 11:32:27 AM PST by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of no kids )
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To: BenLurkin

How nice.
But what about those of us who don’t have “ancient primate ancestors”?


3 posted on 01/06/2025 11:35:36 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: BenLurkin

What is the primate that is between the silhouettes of the bear and the shrew?


4 posted on 01/06/2025 11:36:40 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: BenLurkin
Me: Well I'll be a monkey's uncle.

Darwinist: You've got that backwards.

Democrats: This is how we know eugenics is the way to go.

Me: If natural selection works, then why do you have to play God on who makes babies and who doesn't?

5 posted on 01/06/2025 11:38:07 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: BenLurkin

“ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny”?...................


6 posted on 01/06/2025 11:38:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Good news. Have all the twins you want!


7 posted on 01/06/2025 11:39:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Red Badger

Enhances the transformamogration of exious fentalbenomes.


8 posted on 01/06/2025 11:40:44 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: higgmeister

What is the primate that is between the silhouettes of the bear and the shrew?

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An ancient space alien. They died out long ago. The left us with mysterious megalithic stone structures that modern humans cannot build. Ancient Alien theorists say, “Yes”.


9 posted on 01/06/2025 11:41:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin
Making up explanatory stories after the fact is not science, it is "just so" storytelling without testability to confirm/debunk the (historical, not scientific) hypothesis. That said, there's no basis for even imagining that natural selection would allow for the existence of sexual reproduction in the first place. Quite apart from the impossibilities of an evolutionary process going from asexual to sexual reproduction, sexual reproduction eliminates half of all contributing parental genes by chance rather than a selection process. In other words natural selection is diluted by half by shifting to sexual reproduction. It is such a marvelous form of magic in the eyes of religious believers (for almost all world religions rely vitally on evolutionary beliefs - the only exception of note is monotheism) - natural selection is able to work constructive miracles here, there and everywhere, and then gets thrown out the window as an driving mechanism the next moment.
10 posted on 01/06/2025 11:41:29 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: higgmeister

Looks like a bat


11 posted on 01/06/2025 11:41:46 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

‘ But what about those of us who don’t have “ancient primate ancestors”?’

You a lizard?


12 posted on 01/06/2025 11:42:14 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: BenLurkin

I hate it when that happens.................


13 posted on 01/06/2025 11:43:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Fuzz

Nope.
Just someone who hasn’t rejected God for some fanciful human train of thought.

The science is in tension.


14 posted on 01/06/2025 11:48:08 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: BenLurkin

Very interesting.

Women who are in their 30s are more likely to have twins

Women who take fertility drugs are more likely to have twins

Twin rates are about 3%

Many twins are premature and have to spend time in neonatal care.


15 posted on 01/06/2025 11:50:02 AM PST by algore
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To: higgmeister

Bat.


16 posted on 01/06/2025 11:56:02 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: BenLurkin
Enhances the transformamogration of exious fentalbenomes.

If only I had a nickel for every time I have said this very thing to my husband...

17 posted on 01/06/2025 12:50:14 PM PST by MissNomer
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To: BenLurkin

Bears have bumps in litter count after population declines from weather etc too


18 posted on 01/06/2025 12:51:49 PM PST by wardaddy (Elon ….damn boy….. bly in jou baan verdomp)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah... Sure...
Also, the 2020 election was squeaky clean and honest...


19 posted on 01/06/2025 12:56:00 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: algore
Elvis Presley had a twin brother who died shortly after birth.

I had a first cousin once removed who was a twin--her twin sister died at birth but she lived to 96. Their mother was 30 when they were born.

My grandmother and her brother were twins--their mother was 26 when they were born. I have a second cousin who had twins when she was 26. One of them is the father of twins who were born when their mother was 30. My other grandmother had younger sisters who were twins, born when their mother was 34.

20 posted on 01/06/2025 12:56:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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