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Has anyone considered the possibility that Livelsberger was trying to take down part of the Trump Tower?
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Posted on 01/03/2025 10:47:26 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

From what I am seeing he was unsuccessful in getting the battery fire started.

According the Googles AI summary of an EV fire:

"An electric vehicle (EV) fire can reach temperatures of up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit (2,760 degrees Celsius), which is much hotter than a gasoline-powered car fire that typically burns at 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit (815 degrees Celsius).

EV fires are more difficult to extinguish than gas-powered car fires, and can require up to 10 times more water to put out.

EV fires are caused by thermal runaway, which is when a battery cell short circuits and releases flammable gases, such as hydrogen. The gases then produce more heat and flammable gases, which can heat nearby battery cells and create a self-sustaining fire.

The greater the charge on the car, the more violent and hotter the burn can be."


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: hughandseries; musktrump; retardet; snivelbomber; vanity
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To: con-surf-ative

“The electric vehicle fire temperature may have been high enough to damage the building’s steel structure, and difficult to control. That is basically what brought down the WTC on 9/11. Why else rent a Tesla? Obviously, the perp miscalculated how to ignite a battery fire (thank God).”

It was outside the building.

As to 9/11, it was massive amounts of jet fuel combined with inadequate fire insulation.


21 posted on 01/03/2025 11:13:17 AM PST by TexasGator (11'1/'1/11111)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

NO. I am more and more convinced he was a murder victim. And this was done by Ukraine.

The more I think about this event in Vegas, and as more information surfaces...

This doesn’t appear to be that Livelsberger was the actual bomber. Some things do not make sense.

Shot in the head (according stories it sounds like before things went boom in the truck)
Burnt beyond recognition, but his ID/Passport/Military Id were only singed?
Given his background I think he could’ve put together a better bomb
He rented a Tesla truck, following the “time line” and charging stations etc. it doesn’t add up correctly.
Tesla’s can be preprogramed with a destination, self-driving.

Now he was recruiting for Ukraine? Let’s just say there are more than a few deserters here in the US. Refugee’s if you insist.

It is possible, very possible he was murdered.


22 posted on 01/03/2025 11:13:39 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

if that is what he was trying to do than he is really stupid.


23 posted on 01/03/2025 11:14:53 AM PST by algore
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To: GingisK

“Given that lithium reacts with water, that should come as no surprise. Using water on lithium is like using kerosene to put out a house fire.”

Your post is contrary to accepted fire suppression methods and may endanger lives if believed.


24 posted on 01/03/2025 11:15:52 AM PST by TexasGator (11'1/'1/11111)
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To: iamgalt; ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
He has a named uncle on the record saying that the guy was staunchly pro-Trump and pro-American.

Of course, it's certainly possible that the uncle is lying to muddy the waters, particularly if the uncle himself is a far leftie.

25 posted on 01/03/2025 11:16:28 AM PST by jpl ("You are fake news.")
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
From what I am seeing he was unsuccessful in getting the battery fire started.

It would not have done much damage anyway. Vegas FD was there in 4 minuets and were equipped with a thermal blanket for just such a situation.

They did not need to deploy it.

26 posted on 01/03/2025 11:24:11 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: TexasGator

Tesla manufactures batteries in China at its Giga Shanghai factory in collaboration with CATL, which produces lithium-ion batteries for Tesla’s vehicles.

Source: https://ev-lectron.com/blogs/blog/inside-the-production-where-are-tesla-batteries-made#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Tesla%20manufactures%20batteries%20in,ion%20batteries%20for%20Tesla‘s%20vehicles.


27 posted on 01/03/2025 11:28:29 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: TexasGator
...contrary to accepted fire suppression methods and may endanger lives if believed...

Lithium & Water

Chemistry. Who needs it?

28 posted on 01/03/2025 11:28:56 AM PST by GingisK
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To: ansel12

Maybe I am very naieve but I am at a loss as to how a near retirement special forces master sergeant can turn on his country with something like this. All the indoctrination, all the training, all the leadership involved in his military speiality apparently went right out the window. How can such a thing happen???


29 posted on 01/03/2025 11:29:50 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

How would that be done? 5G signals from StarLink?

CyberTruck batteries are made in Texas.


30 posted on 01/03/2025 11:29:55 AM PST by TexasGator (11'1/'1/11111)
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To: TexasGator

By using the cellular network or a covert proprietary signal.


31 posted on 01/03/2025 11:31:07 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: glorgau
The fireworks were added to give a “movie style” explosion. For demolition it was a poor choice.

It's possible Livilsberger was trying to create a meme with the Musk cybertruck on fire in front of large Trump building...and to a certain extent he accomplished that goal.

Absent a note or manifesto, it may just have been a message to his wife.

32 posted on 01/03/2025 11:32:32 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Why wouldn’t he crash it through the doors at speed?


33 posted on 01/03/2025 11:35:47 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. the )
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To: TexasGator

I’m pretty sure that lithium hydroxide or other compound is in those batteries rather than lithium metal.


34 posted on 01/03/2025 11:37:25 AM PST by GingisK
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To: TexasGator

This link shows the tip of the iceberg on how far China has embedded itself in our infrastructure:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

This is probably the most underreported story in the last 10 years.

Note this is not Infowars or the War Room but Bloomberg.

Anyone who has read “The Art of War” would say that if China is not putting remote detonation tech on EV batteries it would be astonishing and the CCP would demand the company answer for it.


35 posted on 01/03/2025 11:37:42 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: GingisK

“Lithium & Water

Chemistry. Who needs it?”

Obviously you have no idea about EV battery chemistry ...


36 posted on 01/03/2025 11:40:59 AM PST by TexasGator (i.11'1/'1/11111)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Thankfully he was a severe underachiever, more likely a naive patsy.


37 posted on 01/03/2025 11:42:09 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Harpazo imminent. Each post may be my last. It's been real =)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Well, duh! That was my first thought.


38 posted on 01/03/2025 11:43:11 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

He was dead with a headshot wound before he got there. The CIA had the Tesla drive itself there and detonated the device remotely. False flag from beginning to end.


39 posted on 01/03/2025 11:52:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: TexasGator
Obviously...

How obvious did I make that? Was it pale yellow or a red strobe?

40 posted on 01/03/2025 11:54:20 AM PST by GingisK
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