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Military pauses Osprey flights again after more metal failures are found in near crash in November
ABC ^ | 12/09/2024 | TARA COPP

Posted on 12/09/2024 11:26:11 AM PST by BenLurkin

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon is temporarily pausing flights again of its fleet of V-22 Ospreys after weakened metal components possibly played a role in another near crash, the latest setback for an embattled aircraft whose safety problems have grown.

The pause was recommended last week “out of an abundance of caution” by Vice Adm. Carl Chebi, the head of Naval Air Systems Command, which runs the Osprey program for the military, said command spokeswoman Marcia Hart.

The Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force are adhering to the recommended pause, each said in a statement to The Associated Press. The Marines said its pause began on Friday and would run through Monday. The other services are expected to maintain their pauses longer as they look at the cause of the metal failures.

An in-depth investigation into the Osprey by The AP published last month found that safety issues have increased in the past five years, parts are wearing out faster than expected and that the design of the aircraft itself is directly contributing to many of the accidents. The Osprey can fly both like a helicopter and an airplane.

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1 posted on 12/09/2024 11:26:11 AM PST by BenLurkin
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They need to go back to the drawing board...That’s what Wile E. Coyote would do.


2 posted on 12/09/2024 11:28:31 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: BenLurkin

Let Elon’s people design a new one. It’ll work right day one............


3 posted on 12/09/2024 11:30:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: BenLurkin

That aircraft is a menace. It killed a friend and ROTC unit-mate of mine early in its service life. I would under no circumstances be eager to ride in one.

Time to rethink V/STOL military aviation and go with safer, better proven technologies.


4 posted on 12/09/2024 11:31:49 AM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: BenLurkin

VTOL craft will never be practical until anti-grav technology is used - :)


5 posted on 12/09/2024 11:32:01 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: BenLurkin

My parents bought us kids a book on aviation back in the 70’s that showed tilt wing aircraft like the Osprey. Some of the experimental aircraft illustrated dated to the late 50’s.

There’s a reason nobody has fielded them in either a civilian or military role.


6 posted on 12/09/2024 11:32:04 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: BenLurkin

Saw a couple on Friday doing a few laps around the neighborhood


7 posted on 12/09/2024 11:34:48 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: BenLurkin

Scrap the program.


8 posted on 12/09/2024 11:38:16 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: BenLurkin

They have been garbage since the beginning. They were forced on the USMC by congress several years ago.


9 posted on 12/09/2024 11:40:23 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: BenLurkin
Still a great concept and necessary.

Anything which takes off and lands vertical is plagued with issues.

Just comes with the territory.

Machines that do this have a lot of vibration, an air-frame under constant torque, the power is redirect by 90 degrees usually (Osprey is the exception), everything is spinning is circles, and they have the inherent stability of a one legged chair. Then when something does go array, you are usually low and often in an urban environment or over water. What can possibly go wrong?

But... You still need to take off and land vertically in many cases, so you accept the risks.

I'm sure as time goes on and you get into material fatigue, more issues will pop up. But so was the case also with the CH-47, AV8-B, etc.

The fact that they identified the issue, grounded the fleet, and are making appropriate preemptive repairs shows the system is working. I would argue this is a success story.

10 posted on 12/09/2024 11:44:52 AM PST by Red6
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Let Elon’s people design a new one. It’ll work right day one............

Actually, Elon's design philosophy is not to try for perfection up front, but to improve iterations as a learning curve. Try and try again. See Spacex blowups for examples.

NASA on the other hand is paralyzed trying for perfection, and then they still get blowups.

11 posted on 12/09/2024 11:54:05 AM PST by Rinnwald
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Agreed. My overall hope for SpaceX is not just success, but it bringing a healthy competition to what was otherwise a practical monopoly on NASA and military contracts. If I had my way, Boeing and Airbus, etc. will now step up the plate knowing they actually have to do good work to keep getting govt money.

I don't want a future where SpaceX gets it all, which would be good for a while, until SpaceX believe they no longer have to compete to get the contracts.

12 posted on 12/09/2024 11:57:54 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red6
The fact that they identified the issue, grounded the fleet, and are making appropriate preemptive repairs shows the system is working. I would argue this is a success story.

After retiring from a career in failure analysis and corrective action, I agree with you.

They better find a new source of supply for the gear materials though. The one they are using has either basic processing flaws or inspection escapes.

13 posted on 12/09/2024 12:16:26 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Red Badger

But you’ll have to take it in every 2 weeks for software updates.


14 posted on 12/09/2024 12:26:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
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To: packagingguy

I guarantee that some politician pushed for the aircraft to be adopted.


15 posted on 12/09/2024 12:27:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
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To: BenLurkin

Time to dump that trash. Too problematic.


16 posted on 12/09/2024 12:28:29 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And charge it every night..................outside the hangar...........


17 posted on 12/09/2024 12:31:19 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: wjcsux

John McCain was the huge supporter of this nightmare that has killed over 250 ocupants jacckass McCain stays around with that OSPREY NIGHTMARE


18 posted on 12/09/2024 12:31:39 PM PST by electricjack (Hello I am from the govt an an I here to help you Ugh worst thing I ever heard in my 80+ years..)
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To: SharpenedEdge

My brother the former Marine, despises these things. Had several buddies die in separate crashes.
But there is a FReeper or 2 roaming around that will defend them for some reason.


19 posted on 12/09/2024 12:38:33 PM PST by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: wjcsux

I can only go by articles I read at the time, but my recollection. is the Marines forced this on Congress not the other way around


20 posted on 12/09/2024 1:04:15 PM PST by MrKatykelly (Obama was the proof of concept puppet.)
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