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Data centers powering artificial intelligence could use more electricity than entire cities
CNBC ^ | 11/24/2024 | Spencer Kimball

Posted on 11/24/2024 2:29:16 PM PST by DFG

The power needs of artificial intelligence and cloud computing are growing so large that individual data center campuses could soon use more electricity than some cities, and even entire U.S. states, according to companies developing the facilities.

The electricity consumption of data centers has exploded along with their increasingly critical role in the economy in the past 10 years, housing servers that power the applications businesses and consumers rely on for daily tasks.

Now, with the advent of artificial intelligence, data centers are growing so large that finding enough power to drive them and enough suitable land to house them will become increasingly difficult, the developers say. The facilities could increasingly demand a gigawatt or more of power — one billion watts — or about twice the residential electricity consumption of the Pittsburgh area last year.

Technology companies are in a “race of a lifetime to global dominance” in artificial intelligence, said Ali Fenn, president of Lancium, a company that secures land and power for data centers in Texas. “It’s frankly about national security and economic security,” she said. “They’re going to keep spending” because there’s no more profitable place to deploy capital.

Renewable energy alone won’t be sufficient to meet their power needs. Natural gas will have to play a role, developers say, which will slow progress toward meeting carbon dioxide emissions targets.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: ai; chatgpt; cloudcomputing; computing; datacenters; electricity; energy; information; infrastructure; nationalsecurity; nuclearpower
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1 posted on 11/24/2024 2:29:16 PM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

There’s something else going on here besides this artificial intelligence can’t even reason


2 posted on 11/24/2024 2:32:04 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: DFG

Interesting i just asked Perplexity how much electricity it uses to answer just one question.

here is the answer.

According to recent calculations, ChatGPT uses approximately 0.0029 kilowatt-hours of electricity to answer a single question, which is nearly ten times more energy than a typical Google search that consumes about 0.0003 kilowatt-hours per query.


3 posted on 11/24/2024 2:32:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: DFG

“Renewable energy alone won’t be sufficient to meet their power needs.”

Oh, Spencer, come on! Everybody knows the Unicorn Fart Generator is going to do the job.


4 posted on 11/24/2024 2:32:47 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

At a high rate of 25¢/kWh, the cost of the power to answer one question is 0.000725 cents.


5 posted on 11/24/2024 2:35:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: DFG

Which is why Microsoft is buying Three Mile Island Nuclear Power Plant and renewing its license.

Enough power there to power two cities

I am not exactly crazy about Microsoft owning a power plant but I am glad that the plant is not being decommissioned


6 posted on 11/24/2024 2:38:09 PM PST by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: DFG

This is why after years of telling consumers to live with expensive ‘green energy’ the tech giants are getting ready to bring online nuclear energy.

Good for them but not for us...


7 posted on 11/24/2024 2:43:13 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: DFG

AI industry run by billionaires.
AI needs huge amounts of electricity.
Regular consumers need electricity to live.

Who is going to get the electricity?


8 posted on 11/24/2024 2:44:14 PM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: DFG

Hook up solar panels and windmills.


9 posted on 11/24/2024 2:44:20 PM PST by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Electricity generated by solar and wind is undependable and Dirty.

Computers require dependable and Clean power.

Dirty power is power that is not Regular which means that its wave form is very constant. Clean power does not vary in its amplitude or frequency.

Solar and wind can not supply clean power


10 posted on 11/24/2024 2:45:13 PM PST by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: DFG

Which is why the push to EV’s. They don’t give a rat’s behind whether you can drive, or not. They just want the electricity generation.


11 posted on 11/24/2024 2:45:32 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: DFG

1.21 Gigawatts! Great Scott!


12 posted on 11/24/2024 2:46:15 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pontiac

I am not exactly crazy about Microsoft owning a power plant


Not exactly the place where you want to see a Blue Screen Of Death.


13 posted on 11/24/2024 2:47:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DFG

A much more important priority than air conditioning, heating, or electric cars.


14 posted on 11/24/2024 2:49:42 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: DFG

Anyone pushing these things should have to build and provide their own power sources. In the mean time, if they draw more than our systems can provide, they get shut down first. They don’t like it...tough, get off the grid.


15 posted on 11/24/2024 2:51:33 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: DFG

Sounds like AI is metastasizing.


16 posted on 11/24/2024 2:55:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: DFG

Is this a good use of power ?


17 posted on 11/24/2024 2:59:11 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: dfwgator

Microsoft has never owned a nuclear power plant

Having worked at one for 37 years and in that time worked under 3 different owners, one of which had no experience as being the owner operator of nuclear power generation, I can tell you that managing a nuclear power plant is different than anything most businessmen are accustomed to.

And most management types are not the type are ready to accept that they could be wrong.


18 posted on 11/24/2024 3:02:38 PM PST by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Yes, because it will be used to enslave us.

Or worse.


19 posted on 11/24/2024 3:03:29 PM PST by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: DFG

When the elite want tools to allow them to dominate their citizens there is never a shortage of precious resources.


20 posted on 11/24/2024 3:04:47 PM PST by wildcard_redneck
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