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Progressive fault lines emerge after Harris’s loss
The Hill ^ | 11/16/24 | Hanna Trudo

Posted on 11/16/2024 8:38:19 AM PST by Libloather

Progressives are at odds with one another over how to hone their message to voters after losing the White House again to President-elect Trump.

There’s little disagreement that things need to change. Democrats’ most recent electoral strategy has been rendered ineffective, delivering Trump back to Washington with his party’s full control of Congress.

But there’s no consensus about what the left should do next.

One camp says the future is with economic populists, a group that puts financially disadvantaged voters of all demographics at the forefront. They believe that if Democrats prioritize class struggles over culture wars on the national stage, they will alienate fewer people and have a shot at winning again.

The other group of progressives sees room for several top-tier priorities, with shifting orders of importance. They believe their wing can emphasize all aspects of identity politics, while also standing up for democracy, the rule of law and a brighter economic future all at once.

“The idea of economic populism being the actual patriotic lane is really good,” said Pete D’Alessandro, a former senior campaign aide to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) from Iowa.

The distinction, some argue, is very subtle. The progressive wing is in agreement that class and identity are intersectional and there’s a deep belief that no group should be sacrificed at the expense of another.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: dcircularfiringsquad; fault; horizontal; loss; meltdown; progressive; tds
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RATS are having trouble with the science.
1 posted on 11/16/2024 8:38:19 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

“How do we look like we have changed without changing?”

Good luck.


2 posted on 11/16/2024 8:41:52 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "Murica!")
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To: Libloather

“Progressives are at odds with one another over how to hone their message to voters…”

We heard their message and rejected it completely.

So I suggest they keep repeating only louder next time.

L


3 posted on 11/16/2024 8:42:04 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Libloather

Dear Progressives: Don’t change a thing. You’re doing just fine.


4 posted on 11/16/2024 8:42:25 AM PST by Enterprise (These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: Libloather

They just need to hone their lying skills...


5 posted on 11/16/2024 8:42:41 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Libloather

Oh, I’d say they got their message across loud and clear.

They don’t understand that’s WHY people rejected what they had to offer.


6 posted on 11/16/2024 8:43:18 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Wow.

I didn’t know they were this stupid...well yeah I did.

What will likely happen is some candidate from out of nowhere who has been groomed since 12 will come to the forefront.

Only this time we’ll beat him/her.


7 posted on 11/16/2024 8:44:13 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: Libloather

And the idiots still think causing division in class warfare and envy is a winning strategy.


8 posted on 11/16/2024 8:44:44 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: Libloather

They haven’t learned anything from this. It will be the same bunch, same game, starting Jan 22.


9 posted on 11/16/2024 8:55:14 AM PST by lurk (u)
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... there’s a deep belief that no group should be sacrificed at the expense of another.

I agree with them on the point. Unfortunately their understanding and application of this position doesn't pass the sniff test. The problem is that their idea of "no group should be sacrificed at the expense of another" really means all the groups that align with woke democrat, progressive views - all others, particularly Christian conservatives are not included when they say, "no group should be sacrificed at the expense of another."

10 posted on 11/16/2024 9:06:48 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Libloather

BTTT


11 posted on 11/16/2024 9:13:30 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Libloather

Liberals will Double Down on Stupid.


12 posted on 11/16/2024 9:44:47 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Libloather

Matt Gaetz needs to expose the Rats for all to see and take away the Rat “patriotic” and espoused superior morality lanes. They are neither patriotic nor moral.

Trump just ran with the populist points that we bottom-tier garbage Republicans had been screaming at Mitch McConnell and the Establishment Republicans for years and years about. We were a very large block that had been used and thrown away by Mitch’s cutthroats many times. I feel vindication inside and out. Thank you for listening, President Trump.


13 posted on 11/16/2024 9:45:11 AM PST by RatRipper
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"What's so civil 'bout war anyway?"

The snake eating itself...glorious. Liberals are always looking for the angle on how to 'package' themselves and their message, always about hiding who they really are.

Trump didn't win because his message was better honed, you nitwits. He won because he is authentic, because he loves America and Americans. You don't.

14 posted on 11/16/2024 9:47:06 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: dp0622

I’m dropping this everywhere because I want you guys to find a Dem who can explain this:

Trump 2020 pop vote: 74mm
Trump 2024 pop vote: 75mm

Trump 2024 pop vote: 75.5 Harris 2024 pop vote: 71mm?!!!

10mm Dems went missing and that’s why Trump won! I thought they were fired up!
Either that or those 10mm Biden votes in 2020 weren’t real.


15 posted on 11/16/2024 9:50:44 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "Murica!")
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To: Libloather

“no group should be sacrificed at the expense of another”

“Except those racists, Hitlers, sexists, racists, transphobic, xenophobic, patriarchal misogynists, garbage racist people. We hate THOSE people and want to punish them and make them pay”

HAHAHAHAHA. Keep it up democrats. The level of self delusion and zero comprehension will work out great for you moving forward.


16 posted on 11/16/2024 10:29:28 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Libloather

“I love being a conservative. We conservatives are proud of our philosophy. Unlike our liberal friends, who are constantly looking for new words to conceal their true beliefs and are in a perpetual state of reinvention, we conservatives are unapologetic about our ideals. We are confident in our principles and energetic about openly advancing them. And at our core we embrace and celebrate the most magnificent governing document ever ratified by any nation — the U.S. Constitution. Along with the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes our God-given natural right to be free, it is the foundation on which our government is built and has enabled us to flourish as a people. We conservatives are never stronger than when we are advancing our principles.”

Rush Limbaugh


17 posted on 11/16/2024 10:36:10 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Libloather

“”Progressives are at odds with one another over how to hone their message to voters…””

How to hone their lies, deceit, and hatred of all things good and great.

One of the very few times Hussein actually told the truth “spread the wealth around” all hell broke loose. Rush Limbaugh used to be point out all of the ‘uhs’ ‘ahs’ Hussein would use when there was no teleprompter. He had to remember and/or create more lies.


18 posted on 11/16/2024 11:23:07 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Libloather

I’m giggling a little here. The idea of appealing to class interests purely on the basis of economics is classical Marx. The idea of expanding that to including race, sex, etc, is pure Frankfurt School Marx. The communists have been having this conversation over and over again for years.


19 posted on 11/16/2024 11:29:37 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SaxxonWoods

Exactly, they were not real


20 posted on 11/16/2024 12:11:46 PM PST by raygunfan ( )
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