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Where Harris Went Wrong
Vanity | 10/9/2024 | Econjack

Posted on 11/09/2024 1:40:01 PM PST by econjack

I'm a retired economics professor who voted against Harris, mainly because of her economic policies. For example, Harris (and virtually all Democrats) rally around the statement: “The rich should pay their fair share!” I have a number of problems with this statement when it is a basis for government economic policy.

For example, consider her statement that the rich don't pay their fair share. First, who gets to determine “a fair share”? Currently, the top 10 percent of income earners (i.e., the “rich”) paid 73.7% of all taxes collected by the IRS. Wage earners with $550,000 or more (the top 1%) paid 42.3% of all income taxes. The lowest 50% of wage earners ($43,600 or less) paid only 2.3% of the tax total. In other words, the rich pay income taxes at a rate that is more than 35 higher than the average worker. How is that “fair”? Who are the entrepreneurs who invest in the economy and generate economic growth which creates jobs? I don't think it's the “poor” people.

Harris also said she would raise taxes on the “greedy” corporations from 21% to 28%. Where does Harris think corporate money comes from? It comes from the American consumer. In most cases, the tax increase will mean higher prices to consumers as the company tries to pass the tax on to the consumer. The consumer loses via higher prices and the corporation loses by the increased taxes. The only winner is the government who collects the tax. Personally, I'd rather see the corporation keep the money to grow the business, create new jobs, and promote economic growth than the government use some part of it to fund a war in Ukraine or buy $600 hammers. I trust the corporations to spend the money more wisely than the government.

Another bothersome statement for me is that Harris is going to go after grocery stores for “price gouging”. Again, who gets to define what price gouging is? Clearly, that's what Harris wants the power to be able to define. I find it odd that she singled out one of the least profitable sectors in the US economy to serve up as one that engages in price gouging. The typical return for most grocery chains is 1-3%. That's price gouging to Harris. Really? Most grocery chains could make larger returns if they sold their chains and put the money into a saving account. If they did, not only would they make more profit, they wouldn't have to contend with those pesky people known as employees. Such policy statements tells me Harris doesn't understand economics, especially relative to the supply chain. What's worse, this suggests her economic policy advisors don't understand economics, either.

In a nutshell, what bothers me about almost all Democrat economic policies is that they are based on a zero sum result. That is, the only way to make one group economically better off (e.g., consumers), is to take it away from a different group (e.g., producers). The net gain is zero. An example will help illustrate the difference.

In 1972, George McGovern was the Democrat nominee for President. In an effort to court the union vote, McGovern met with Caesar Chevez, the leader of the lettuce pickers union. (See: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1972-press-photo-cesar-chavez-george-4645282248.) After the meeting, McGovern said he would boycott the lettuce growers and not eat another salad until the workers wage demands were met. This meeting was pointed out to me by a colleague who taught in the Sociology department at a university where I taught. (She was a very liberal professor and would take any opportunity to rattle my conservative cage.) You don't need fancy math or graphs to see where this went wrong...just common sense. The conversation went like this:

Her: “McGovern has pledged not to eat another salad until the lettuce pickers get a wage increase!” Me: “Lois, that's exactly the wrong thing to do if you want them to get a wage increase.” Her: “Once again, you're a crazy conservative.” Me: “Hear me out. Right now there's probably 10,000 acres of lettuce to be picked. It's either picked soon or it rots in the field, right?” Her: “Exactly!” Me: “If the boycott is successful, what will happen to the demand for lettuce and its price?” Her: “Demand will decrease and the price will fall. That's the point of a boycott.” Me: “OK, and what will happen to the farmers' income?” Her: “It will fall. Again, that's the point!” Me: “And what does that do to the farmers' ability to give a wage increase?” Her: [crickets] Me: “Consider this: What if McGovern had said he was going to eat 5 salads a day and encouraged everyone else to do the same? What would happen to demand?” Her: “It would go up.” Me: “And since the supply of lettuce on those 10,000 acres is fixed for now, what would happen to price?” Her: “It would go up.” Me: “And what would happen to the farmers' ability to give a wage increase?” Her: “It would go up.” Me: “And what would happen to the cost to the farmers on NOT giving a wage increase?” Her: [Shouting at me] “That may be, but I don't believe it!” ...at which point she would spin on her heel and storm out of my office. Poor Lois. She never did learn that facts don't care how you feel about things.

The real lesson to learn here is that it is much easier to promote a policy that is a win for both sides rather than a zero sum policy. The boycott is a zero sum policy where workers gain, but the farmer loses. The opposite policy sees the farmer sell his lettuce at a higher price and the workers get a wage increase. True, the price of lettuce costs the consumer more, but, taken individually, it's small compared to the gains by the farmer and the worker. By the way, McGovern ended up with 5 electoral votes.

People overlook how important economic growth is to the well-being of the economic system. Suppose I'm rich (i.e., 90% of the “economic pie”) and you're poor (i.e., only 10% of the pie). The Harris approach is to take some part of my slice and give it to you. Your gain is my loss—a zero sum game. However, suppose Harris gives the rich a tax cut and the rich see this as a good sign and take those extra dollars and invest them. Let's further assume that the new investment increases the SIZE of the pie by 10%. Note: this means we both have an increase in our income even though our slices remain the same size! This is a win-win for both income groups. Lots of people hate Bezos because he so rich. However, they forget that in the early years, rather than spend the money on himself, Bezos plowed the funds back into the firm and grew it to the point where he now provides food, clothing, and shelter for over 250,000 people. Rick people are not automatically bad people.

Before you judge empty slogans like “They don't pay their fair share” or “Grocery stores are price gouging”, take a moment and think through what's really being said. If politicians bitch about “unfair taxes”, ask yourself this: “Who wrote the IRS tax code?” Harris had almost 4 years to work on the very problems she's complaining about, why didn't she work to promote solutions for any of them?


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More thinking and less emotion would probably serve voters well.
1 posted on 11/09/2024 1:40:01 PM PST by econjack
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To: econjack

The big takeaway: It takes more than a vajayjay and a penchant for murdering babies to live in the White House.


2 posted on 11/09/2024 1:42:09 PM PST by txeagle
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Kamala Harris is one of the worst presidential candidates ever.

Why did she campaign with Liz Cheney?

3 posted on 11/09/2024 1:43:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: econjack

‘their fair share’

Politicians have been using that old canard for decades. They, however, never define what that ‘fair share’ is. For many leftists, 100% of the wealthy’s earnings/holdings would be fine.


4 posted on 11/09/2024 1:46:31 PM PST by TomGuy
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“WRONG?” She did everything right, it’s just she was dealt a bad hand by Joe, remember?

The DNC needs to run her again without a primary to give her a fair chance. Why, next time she’ll even win over left-handed, right-wing, gun-hugging bible-thumpers who drive army-surplus jeeps!


5 posted on 11/09/2024 1:46:53 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: econjack

Getting tired of all this “Where Harris went wrong crap”. Please stop. She’s a puppet. A. Puppet. So. Is. Biden.


6 posted on 11/09/2024 1:47:53 PM PST by know.your.why
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She lost because she is a liberal extremist. RFK went to Harris first and she wouldn’t give him the time of day. Then RFK went to Trump and he MADE A DEAL. The rest is history - Trump is planning for his second term and Harris is crying on the couch drinking mimosas.


7 posted on 11/09/2024 1:48:37 PM PST by CaliGangsta
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To: econjack

The first time she looked up to Willie Brown.


8 posted on 11/09/2024 1:49:54 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: econjack
I completely agree with everything you say here, but I think what really messed her up were the ads during the football games.

"KAMALA IS FOR THEY/THEM...PRESIDENT TRUMP IS FOR YOU!"

9 posted on 11/09/2024 1:49:57 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: econjack

Her big problem was trying to hit a softball on the view.

She wasn’t capable of anything.

and she is a libtard anti free speech fascist.


10 posted on 11/09/2024 1:51:44 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: econjack

When she first had sex with her boss to get ahead.


11 posted on 11/09/2024 1:52:02 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: econjack
here Harris Went Wrong

When she learned to talk.

12 posted on 11/09/2024 1:55:03 PM PST by ABStrauss (I miss Rush!)
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To: econjack

When she accepted Clinton, Obama and Pelosi’s coup and became the nominee.


13 posted on 11/09/2024 1:55:03 PM PST by paudio (There is a new math: 45 = 47)
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To: econjack

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention Kamala’s proposal to tax unrealized capital gains. Obviously people would dump the stock to avoid taxes. That was a truly a looney idea.

Also the $25k first home buyer subsidy. The 50k subsidy for black business start ups. And let’s not forget the 20k forgivable loan to black males to help them get going and a promise to legalize pot.


14 posted on 11/09/2024 1:55:34 PM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: econjack

She did EVERYTHING that “they” had her do and say.

She was never fit for ‘big league’ politics - period.


15 posted on 11/09/2024 1:55:37 PM PST by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: econjack

I *despise* that term “fair share.”

I usually reply that 50% of the taxpayers pay NO TAX AT ALL. To be fair, those deadbeats need to start paying THEIR fair share.


16 posted on 11/09/2024 1:55:54 PM PST by freedumb2003 (11/6/2024 - Beginning of the new Golden Age for the USA)
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To: freedumb2003

AMEN! EVERYONE SHOULD PAY AT LEAST 10%...at LEAST!


17 posted on 11/09/2024 1:58:09 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: econjack
This is amazing. Her team didn't even reach out to Bob Brady, chairman of the Philadelphia Democratic Party since 1986.

Bob Brady says he was completely ignored by the Harris campaign

18 posted on 11/09/2024 1:58:26 PM PST by Drew68 (Today I'm thoroughly enjoying eating crow salted with liberal tears. Best meal I've ever had!)
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To: econjack

Her VP pick was goofier than Pedo Joe Biden’s VP Pick.


19 posted on 11/09/2024 1:59:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have the ballot counters in Maricopa County and Las Vegas sobered up yet?)
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To: econjack

Where?! Everywhere!


20 posted on 11/09/2024 2:05:10 PM PST by albie (U)
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