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The Garden Thread - November, 2024
November 1, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 11/01/2024 6:46:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies; november
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good morning...now THAT pic wakes ya up!!!


281 posted on 11/23/2024 7:58:27 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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To: AFB-XYZ; All

I picked last of tomatoes, but they are ALL GREEN. Thinking of canning salsa verde, or maybe will freeze dry. Suggestions for any other easy green tomato option?


282 posted on 11/23/2024 8:03:19 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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To: Redleg Duke
The turkeys are fighting back this year!


283 posted on 11/23/2024 8:22:57 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Liz; All

Already planning post-Thanksgiving meals. I’ve made this a number of times. Always delicious!

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/turkey-wild-rice-soup/


284 posted on 11/23/2024 8:27:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FamiliarFace; Diana in Wisconsin; All

The coolest things just happened .... our kitchen looks out at the fields across the road and that is where the cows are that I watch. As I mentioned before, two cows have had calves this past week.

There is one cow (out of 20) that has a totally white face. The rest of the cows are all black (one has a few white markings, but not a totally white face). Anyway, I was sitting in the bay window, looking out (waiting for the mail truck) and I see the white face cow leaving the herd & walking over to some cedar trees. She looked left for a while, then looked right, then disappeared over the hill & it looked like into the cedars.

Hmmmm .... was she leaving the herd to have a calf? No mail truck so I continued to watch for her. Would you believe .... about 30 - 40 minutes later, she walked back out into the field with a calf .... or was I seeing things? Sure looks like some extra little legs walking along with her! She’s out in the sun, lying down in the field so I found some binoculars to look - there IS a little calf lying down with her!

Wow - she surely made short work of having that calf! Of all the cows, she’s the one I can tell apart because of her white face. She’s back up now ... farmer just rolled through the field, didn’t seem to see her. There’s a different truck that drives the fence line and definitely looks for new calves so that might still happen later this afternoon.

That just made my day, seeing her walk out with that calf after I’d been watching & wondering if she was leaving the herd to have her calf!! Babies are starting to ‘pop out’ all over across the road :-)


285 posted on 11/23/2024 8:29:09 AM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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To: Qiviut

I love it when that happens! I’ve seen a number of calves born through the years - and one as ‘freshly’ born as you just saw. It’s always a miracle. :)

Puppies? I could deliver them in my sleep...and I have, LOL!


286 posted on 11/23/2024 9:10:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FRiends; MomwithHope
Just a reminder to get your Amaryllis potted up, or brought back into the light, if you've saved yours from last year. They are so easy to grow and such a bright little piece of sunshine in the cold winter months. The one I have started is 'Red Lion' which is pretty pedestrian, but is always a strong performer with lots of blooms. I am currently lusting after a 'Picotee.'


287 posted on 11/23/2024 9:15:54 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I helped my friend (former vet tech) ‘sling’ some pups when her Jack Russell was having a litter .... helped her cat with some kittens, too. So rewarding when you can put a live, breathing pup/kitten back with mom.

Moving up to larger animals, I helped my mare have her first foal. He was huge & she was having trouble getting his shoulders through. She scared the crap out of me when she got up & walked around the stall with his head & forelegs sticking out. When she went down again, I sat down behind her, put a tennis shoe on each butt cheek, grabbed the forelegs (being careful to keep the position of one more advanced than the other) & when she pushed, I held her progress. After 3 or 4 pushes & keeping the foal from sliding back, he arrived. I had already pulled the stuff off his head - his back legs weren’t totally cleared when he lifted his head & said “hi” to mama. She lifted her head to see him & gave a soft nicker.... I wish I had a video of that moment. The maternal instincts kicking in & that first view of her new (& first) foal were all expressed in the look on her face. Very special experience for me.


288 posted on 11/23/2024 9:39:45 AM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A keeper to be sure.


289 posted on 11/23/2024 9:47:56 AM PST by Liz (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to RULE. (H.L, Mencken))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Augie; Pollard
Good morning Diana! Turkey in the straw??? Turkey in a Coffee Cup! (Scandinavian Turkey taking a hot tub coffee break!)

The Temperatures went down below freezing the last 2 nights here in Northeast Kansas, but it will be warmer in the next 2 days. I might drag the hose out and wash the house while I have an opportunity. Autumn and Winter gardeners need to keep in mind that the lack of water can kill your plantings even if the plants are cold tolerant. (You may also need to continue or increase fertilizer to produce the same growth that you would under warmer conditions!)

Autumn garden pictures taken November 17th:

Above; The tomato trellis; I had 5 late planted Double Yield cucumber plants were still struggling along on November 17th. While I planted these too late for cucumbers, because they were still producing blooms I let them grow to attract or provide food for any late pollinators visiting my garden.

In the time before refrigeration turnips held a higher regard in people's imagination and recipe boxes! They grew quickly in the spring and fall and could be stored in a root cellar over winter. Above left is a November 17 picture showing a rows of rutabaga and turnips planted in front of a trellis of Sugar Snap Peas. (Rutabaga Helena, turnips Golden Ball, Haikurei, and Hidi Beni Red) On November 19th I harvested the turnips because the two Japanese varieties are damaged by freezing weather. I will be topping them, not washing off the dirt, then storing then top side down in an opaque storage bin in peat moss on the back porch or garage.

I have been harvesting the Sugar Snap peas for a week or so. The turnips and peas and green onions are a great addition to a fast and easy to cook Raman noodle soup.

Above right, herbs on the left, Daughter's cat Fred walking the path, and a row of Purple Top Turnips ending at a bed of Japanese Multiplier green onions.

Japanese turnips Haikurei & Hidi-Beni-Red. In 60 to 70F these mature in 45 to 50 days from germination, a bit longer in Cooler weather. They are not pithy or grainy and very mild and are excellent in salads as well as soups. The tops are also great chopped up and used in soup!

Golden-Ball-Turnip, a more traditional storage variety turnip that is good in soup or mashed by itself or with potatoes.

Groningen-Brussle-Sprouts. 95 days. The cabbage loopers and southern diamondback moths have died off allowing removal of the cover and full sunlight for at least 6 or 7 hours a day. Because of the heat and loopers these have a limited cool growing season in Kansas. I Topped the plants a bit early to force the side sprouts to grow. I have also removed a few of the leaves on the sun side to allow more light to reach the sprouts. I am still watering and fertilizing with a fish emulsion fertilizer. I have not covered them. I am on a hilltop and in a sheltered area. They should be cold tolerant to about 20F so still hoping to get additional size and production in the next couple of weeks.

Amazing and Durgesh cauliflowers. Picture is of a Durgesh Cauliflower taken on a Day when I was applying some Phosphate Bat Guano Fertilizer to the plants. Because it was going to freeze I Picked it the next day, the cauliflower was clean tasting did not have the skunky taste of store bought heads. Because of the cold I also covered the other 9 plants with a winter cover to try and protect the other developing heads from freezing. I may add some Miricle Grow blossom formula to my next watering to see if I can hurry head development along. We have 2 more days of 40-50F weather but I think that after that the warm growing weather in NE KS 7B is probably gone for the year so I am saying good by to the cold sensitive plants like this Drift of edible Nastersiums!


290 posted on 11/23/2024 9:52:40 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (KS MO Border 7B)
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To: Qiviut
Q; Weather and snow.

I suppose it falls in the nostalgic look back "Snow-bound-winters-when- I- was- growing- up" catagory? Logs in the fireplace and sweaters and extra blankets.

Snow is fun the week before Christmas and 2 days after new years. After that I want it to melt. (However, if I were farming wheat--I am not--I would want a heavy field covering snow that that hung around until March.)

291 posted on 11/23/2024 10:03:13 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (KS MO Border 7B)
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To: AFB-XYZ
"Good morning! Amazed to still be getting tomatoes, at nearly the end of November. "

Its like crack to gardeners; one of those payoffs that keep you gardening.

292 posted on 11/23/2024 10:08:55 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (KS MO Border 7B)
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To: Qiviut

Super cool! I love that you get to see these new babies!


293 posted on 11/23/2024 10:45:18 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: goodnesswins

Not for green tomatoes, but my Sis told me that if you put them in a small paper bag, and put that on the windowsill, they’ll ripen pretty quickly. I tied it as an experiment with a couple of green ones that the birds had gotten to. It worked! They didn’t ripen real fast, but they did ripen. Good luck to you, no matter what you ultimately decide on! :-)


294 posted on 11/23/2024 12:26:21 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Two options: 1) Stand up, or 2) Bend over)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

True dat! I’m already scoping out where to put the watermelon patch next year, so that the vines won’t choke out everything else I’ll be trying to grow.

Who would’ve thought that just a very few years ago, I wouldn’t have even dared to try my hand at growing stuff?


295 posted on 11/23/2024 12:29:06 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Two options: 1) Stand up, or 2) Bend over)
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To: Qiviut

So sweet! :)


296 posted on 11/23/2024 2:20:52 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Fantastic! You have SO MUCH still growing! I have Kale, LOL!


297 posted on 11/23/2024 2:22:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Anyone remember your windshield covered with bugs in summer?


298 posted on 11/23/2024 3:36:42 PM PST by Pollard
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Mine have been drying out in the garage. I just brought them in today into the cold front closet. They’ll sit there at least until after Christmas. I like to save them for later.I had 6 but lost an old old Minerva. It was a spectacular one, two stalks. I don’t have a clue what happened to it, the skin of the bulb is there on the top but bulb gone. weird.


299 posted on 11/23/2024 3:46:58 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks Pete for posting such beautiful pictures.


300 posted on 11/23/2024 3:49:37 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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