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Should elephants have the same rights as people? A Colorado court may decide
Denver7 ^ | 10-24-24 | AP

Posted on 10/24/2024 7:40:42 AM PDT by dynachrome

Missy, Kimba, Lucky, LouLou, and Jambo have lived in Colorado Springs for decades in the elephant exhibit at the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo. Now an animal rights group is trying to release the elephants from what they say is essentially a prison for such highly intelligent and social animals known to roam for miles a day in the wild.

Colorado's highest court will hear arguments Thursday on whether the older African female elephants should be legally able to challenge their captivity under a long-held process used by prisoners to dispute their detention. The animal rights group NonHuman Rights Project says the animals are languishing while “unlawfully confined” at the zoo, and wants them released to an unspecified elephant sanctuary.

“They are suffering immensely and unnecessarily. Without judicial intervention, they are doomed to suffer day after day, year after year, for the rest of their lives,” a lawyer for the group, Jake Davis, said in a May brief submitted to the Colorado Supreme Court.

The main legal issue is whether or not the elephants are considered persons under the law, and therefore able to pursue a petition of habeas corpus challenging their detention. The NonHuman Rights project argues that legal personhood is not limited to humans.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Humor; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; colorado; dumbassery; elephants; nutty; personhood
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To: sasquatch

Will Sasquatch, chupacabra, dogman and ghosts be next?


21 posted on 10/24/2024 8:10:47 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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Dude used to serve a purpose... semi scientific nowadays I don’t think that’s so much the case. Can’t really release him into the wild at this point because they know nothing about living in the wild but we should certainly discontinue populating shoes with good fine specimens of fauna. Maybe for animals that have been dinged up and can’t really function outside of the zoo perhaps...

It’s kind of like the true story of the Orca that killed a couple people and now it’s “serving time” in solitary confinement... EXCUSE ME - BUT that is totally f****d up. Put that Orca out in the ocean and let it live out its days in a natural setting.

As for elephants... before one of the great Extinction events the skeletal remains prove that the North American continent had a large population of mammoths and mastodons, along with the accompanying predators large herds of big mammals attracts.


22 posted on 10/24/2024 8:11:20 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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To: dynachrome

https://www.nonhumanrights.org/about-us/


until the money runs out.


23 posted on 10/24/2024 8:12:07 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: dynachrome

If the elephants win, they’ll officially have more rights than the pre-born.


24 posted on 10/24/2024 8:16:32 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: dynachrome
Should elephants have the same rights as people?

Yes. For one thing, they should be allowed to drive.

25 posted on 10/24/2024 8:17:40 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: dynachrome

The liberal mindset: Unborn human babies aren’t people, but elephants are.


26 posted on 10/24/2024 8:19:40 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Already got ‘em. Just refuse to appear in general.
A contempt citation from the House might be a problem.
S /s


27 posted on 10/24/2024 8:20:04 AM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: dynachrome

Thew elephants should file a complaint either in writing or orally alleging their awful experiences. No animal rights people should speak for them as none of them have the LIVED EXPERIENCES OF THE ELEPHANTS!


28 posted on 10/24/2024 8:21:46 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: dynachrome

If answer to ?? is “yes”; then when will they be outfitted with cannons?


29 posted on 10/24/2024 8:28:13 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: dynachrome

I’d bet money that the people who think elephants should have the same rights as people do NOT support the right of preborn PEOPLE to live.


30 posted on 10/24/2024 8:36:03 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: dynachrome

It astounds me that people think that Extra Terrestrial aliens will consider us an intelligent species.

I have always thought that they at best will treat us as we treat our terrestrial animals.

We might possibly have a choice of being food, or pets, assuming we are not just eliminated.

I have heard rumors that we taste better after being tenderized by spike proteins.


31 posted on 10/24/2024 8:40:19 AM PDT by algore
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To: dynachrome

This ridiculous concept of providing the same legal protections as humans not limited to animals:

Trees, rivers and mountains:
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-trees-rivers-mountains-gaining-legal.html

Minnesota’s Wild rice:
https://celdf.org/rights-of-nature/timeline/

Panama’s plants and ecosystems:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/legislation-giving-nature-the-same-rights-as-humans-gains-ground-in-some-countries/


32 posted on 10/24/2024 8:41:52 AM PDT by Deaf and Discerning
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To: dynachrome

I think cats should have the same rights. Not sure about dogs, but definitely not elephants or fat chicks.


33 posted on 10/24/2024 8:42:14 AM PDT by anton
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To: dynachrome

Slippery slope leads to this. Animals are property and their welfare is the responsibility of their owner, or they are independent beings and everyone is responsible. I say property, and do away with all the government laws which are so stupid. You have a dog that can survive in the Arctic indefinitely, but the law says it is felony cruelty to leave him outside alone for two hours in the winter, yet the same person owns ten cows and four horses that stay oustside 24/7 all year and would die long before the dog.


34 posted on 10/24/2024 8:49:30 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: dynachrome

Last week, the farmer I drive commercial truck part-time for had two of his drivers go to the west coast and bring an old elephant back to the Elephant Sanctuary near Hohenwald, TN.

Once loaded, the drivers team drove back, only stopping for fuel, and escorted by security and veterinarian personel.

They brought one back from the west coast a year ago.

Big money animal rights people donate thousands to keep the old elephants alive.


35 posted on 10/24/2024 8:51:32 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: DesertRhino

Colorado high court will probably release of decision that agrees with the wackos.


36 posted on 10/24/2024 9:00:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: dynachrome

Rights and responsibilities are two sides of the same coin. No responsibilities, NO RIGHTS.

So if elephants are given rights, they also should be subject to income taxes, be required to register for the draft, and either show proof of health insurance or sign up for Obamacare.


37 posted on 10/24/2024 9:14:05 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: dynachrome
Elephants are useful friends,
Equipped with handles at both ends.
They have a wrinkled moth-proof hide;
Their teeth are upside down, outside.
If you think the elephant preposterous,
You’ve probably never seen a rhinosterous.

Camille Saint-Saens: The Carnival of the Animals, with Verses by Ogden Nash, Narrated by Jonathan Winters: Number 14, The Elephant

38 posted on 10/24/2024 9:30:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: dynachrome
Elephants are clearly smarter than the people filing this brief.
They want them released to an unspecified elephant sanctuary.
Sounds a lot like a reservation to me.


39 posted on 10/24/2024 9:33:02 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: dynachrome

I bet these “animal rights” “activists” are all in favor of killing human babies.


40 posted on 10/24/2024 9:34:32 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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