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It baffles me the amount of people supporting higher taxes,inflation,world wars.
1 posted on 10/20/2024 4:34:13 AM PDT by shoff
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To: shoff

It is a problem of info source. The msm is full of lies.


2 posted on 10/20/2024 4:37:32 AM PDT by exnavy
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Democrats are good the very poor and very wealthy - not so much for us in the middle-class.

The poor are promised stuff, the rich get tax carve-outs, and we get to pay for it all.

3 posted on 10/20/2024 4:38:36 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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They’ve been indoctrinated by leftist schools and women. Abortion is the religion of a lot of women and they overcome any common sense of their partners.


6 posted on 10/20/2024 4:39:42 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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Dems have a mental psychosis which is a dissociation with reality around them.


7 posted on 10/20/2024 4:42:14 AM PDT by iontheball
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They are no different than big-University sports fans.
Roll tide?


8 posted on 10/20/2024 4:42:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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Back in the day, the drinking age in NY was 18. Living in Ct, we teens would drive over the border to Brewster in Putnam County to drink. It’s amazing that we got home alive.

To answer your question, Democrats are thoroughly brainwashed that Trump is a Gollum. Musk says that they are infected with a mind virus. Greed is always the bottom line though. Democrats are loyal communists who profit when Democrats are in power.


9 posted on 10/20/2024 4:44:20 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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My guess is that it’s not whether or not Harris is a genius or an idiot. These people know Harris will be a puppet just like Biden. What they are voting for is democrat policy and principles that got them rich and affluent or whatever and will keep them that way. They live in bubbles where they all think alike. Then you have the legal matters, such as enforcing laws they are likely skirting.

We aren’t just talking about the elites of NY, we are talking about the elites of the whole damn country and the western culture.

It’s very self destructive as it will lead to civil wars and WWIII. The people are waking up to all this.

It’s just how history runs in circles. Conditions of the 30’s led to WWII. Our elites are blindly pushing us to the next one.


10 posted on 10/20/2024 4:45:21 AM PDT by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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Did a little checking in my neck of the woods...

Not much of it to be seen, but most of the Heels Up signage around here is on properties owned by public employees. Usually teachers and bureaucrats, a few local pols.

IOW: Deep State.


11 posted on 10/20/2024 4:46:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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I got a good laugh last week. I'm in Eastern Tennessee. Very red area.

I was driving to Home Depot and on my right, I saw a lone Harris/Walz sign. The only sign in that neighborhood. I shook my head and drove on.

The next day, I drove the same route to the grocery store. ALL the houses on the left side of the street had newly installed Trump/Vance signs. Funny stuff.

12 posted on 10/20/2024 4:52:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection...you may achieve excellence.)
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It goes back to the great depression and Franklin Roosevelt’s fireside chat (a chicken in every pot). The democrat government mandates to protect unions, created social security, etc.

It is a legacy, a tradition handed down from parents to children to assume that Republicans are for the rich and democrats are for the poor. This brainwashing has been going on for generations.

But since Trump, a realignment is taking place. People now see what the Rat party has become. Here is a short list:

1) The Rats have brought in tens of millions of criminal illegal aliens (many of them murderers).
2) The Rats advocate for the killing of unborn babies at 9 months.
3) The Rats are pushing homosexuality and transgender depravity in kindergarten school.
4) The Rats are the war monger party, giving Ukraine hundreds of $billions (with much of the money stolen by oligarchs) while giving nothing to American’s devastated by hurricanes.
5) The Rats push for censorship, and force most citizens to take experimental “vaccines” (while exempting illegals) and closing churches while leaving brothels and casino’s open.

It will take some time, but the democrat party will eventually face extinction (just like the communist). People want freedom.


15 posted on 10/20/2024 5:04:55 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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Mostly indoctrination. These are godless people who are willing to believe anything but the truth. They trust the authority of celebrities.

Also, when government doubled spending over the past few years and it made no improvement in the lives of you and everyone you know, many of these people were on the receiving end.


17 posted on 10/20/2024 5:06:09 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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In Westchester? Rich women who are not bright, and their beta husbands who do what their wives tell them.


21 posted on 10/20/2024 5:10:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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How can you in theory have “made it” but be so stupid as to endorse such a looser?

Have some multi-millionaire friends in Mamaroneck, Westchester County, New York. He's an Russian-Azeri film-maker in his 60s; she's a (secular) Russian-Jewess in her 40s. Two children. Emigrated (could almost be described as: escaped by the skin of their teeth) from Russia in the early 2000s. Proud Americans and staunchly anti-communist. And yet, they vote a straight Dem. ticket.

My take (which is admittedly based upon some suppositions, since my wife - who attended the prestigious Lomonossov U. in Moscow with the Russian-Jewish wife - and I don't discuss politics with them) is that, though they both had humble beginnings, they are now so wealthy that they think (on a gut level - I'm not talking about the intellectual level) societal frictions (crime stats driven by illegal aliens pouring over our border, etc.) are best dealt with by taking a "top-bottom" approach - i.e., a wise, benevolent govt. knows best what to do, and should be given all the power necessary to do it; a laissez-faire approach is anathema to them, reeking, as it does, of anarchy. They were poor, once, and thus know that poor people are basically honest, hard-working, and in need of a "helping hand." At their present income level, the thought of shelling out $1 million in annual taxes might not really cut into their lifestyle that much. (That someone making only $100,000 per annum might be very acutely aware of the reduced standard of living they enjoy after the "tax bite" escapes them.)

Then there's the social aspect: They "run" with artsy types, and in that milieu, I can imagine that one would be shunned were one to express support for Trump (a lot of them probably secretly do support Trump). To avoid cognitive dissonance - which could otherwise result in severe psychological pain - they subconsciously sublimate any conservative thoughts they might sometimes have.

Regards,

22 posted on 10/20/2024 5:12:21 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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One word, Gaslighting

Also, many liberals are b.ind to the truth- literally blind to it- they are unable to see the truth because the evil one has blinded them to it, and caused them to seek lies, convincing them that the lies are truth. He is the father of lies, and convinces many to beleive the lies.


23 posted on 10/20/2024 5:17:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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Excellent answers to the question. My Democrat friends are rabid. Besides having no sense of humor, they become overwrought when any part of their positions are questioned.

They have Ultimate Truth on their side, as told to them repeatedly by the MSM. They listen to NPR in the car on background and to MSNBC when they watch news. They can repeat the latest calumny endlessly because they’ve heard it endlessly and believe it with the same depth of trust that a religionist will. They would NEVER poison themselves by actually reading or hearing a conservative program. Trump is the Devil and they NEVER let him appear on their screens or, if they do, only with the proper interpretation playing while he’s silenced.

They believe in abortion as a sacred right that probably doesn’t include any mental images of the poor babe. It’s just another mindless regurgitation.

Critical race theory is another pillar of the faith. I’ve seen friends on the edge of mental illness with the guilt they feel for any family member in the past expressing any prejudice, with no excuses for the time period or the culture in which they were living. And THEY feel the need to expiate their relatives’ guilt financially, both now and in leaving the bulk of their fortunes to those organizations in their wills - well beyond what will be left to family.

Another tenet is protection of transgenders. The percentage of my friends who respond to the topic with a description of a trans close relative is absolutely staggering. The brainwashing of the children to find their specialness in taking on such a position puts a black mark on the soul of every teacher and every newscaster who has spread this poison.

In all other parts of their lives, they’re just like normal people because the brainwashing doesn’t affect any other part of their lives. Stay off those topics and they’re just like they were in the past - cheerful, intelligent people who can be counted on in emergencies and to always be there when you need them.

The Democrat party has become an official cult. With all the punishments that any cult will mete out to its followers laid on any member that dares question the smallest article of faith, and benefits that accrue to those that chant those articles and bring in new members to prove the righteousness of their positions to the, as yet, uninitiated.

Cults are terrifying.


24 posted on 10/20/2024 5:24:57 AM PDT by mairdie (Trump (I Will Win) - Pavarotti's Nessun Dorma - https://youtu.be/MigUKGKr-nQ)
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I think the thing that’s driving much of the harris vote is TDS.

Leftists hate Trump so much that they’d rather vote for a monkey, as told me by a relative last election cycle.

I try to avoid her, but not always possible due to circumstances beyond my control. But I think this year, is going to be the deal breaker.


26 posted on 10/20/2024 5:25:20 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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"Westchester which is a pretty affluent area I see many more Harris signs than Trump. Some are rabid supporters with multiple lawn signs and even Trump signs with a circle and bar across it. Why is that? How can you in theory have “made it” but be so stupid as to endorse such a looser?"

Government workers and contractors, federal, state and county. It seems to me that they tend to get "the lion's share"..

27 posted on 10/20/2024 5:26:27 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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Westchester is a hopelessly Democrat suburb. The best NYC suburbs are on LI. Suffolk is Trumpy and I believe Nassau will be this election cycle.


30 posted on 10/20/2024 5:31:49 AM PDT by FreeReign
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That’s because they are not going to be taxed higher. The higher taxes are for the middle class, not the wealthy despite what they say.


32 posted on 10/20/2024 5:44:04 AM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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We spent yesterday at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and saw lots of Trump flags driving up to the campus. The folks at the tailgate were mostly for Trump, which came up frequently in conversation. Most of those folks live in New England, but there was a sprinkling of Texans and Californians mixed in.


35 posted on 10/20/2024 5:51:23 AM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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