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Trump Thinks the Border Got Him Elected in 2016. He’s Convinced It Will Do So Again.
The New York Times ^ | Oct. 19, 2024, 5:04 a.m. ET | Jonathan Swan, Maggie Haberman, Ruth Igielnik

Posted on 10/19/2024 10:18:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Donald J. Trump turned his back to the crowd and stared up at the screen. Ominous music rang out. For the next minute and a half, the former president and his audience in Atlanta stood and silently watched clips of news reports of undocumented immigrants committing horrific crimes.

When the montage ended, Mr. Trump said out loud what he has been telling his advisers in private for weeks: that, in his view, immigration is the “No. 1” issue in the 2024 election.

“That beats out the economy. That beats it all out to me, it’s not even close,” Mr. Trump said of the immigration issue, after playing the video on Tuesday night. “The United States is now an occupied country. But on Nov. 5, 2024, that will be liberation day in America.”

In the final weeks of a campaign that the former president has been waging more or less since his first year out of office, Mr. Trump is going with his gut, doubling down on the rhetoric that he believes won him the 2016 election and using immigration and the border to form the core of his closing message to voters.

Those instincts are at odds with the data, and with some of his advisers.

Mr. Trump has told aides that he beat Hillary Clinton in 2016 with the border but that in 2020 the border was “fixed” — illegal crossings had dropped to a dramatic low in part because of the coronavirus pandemic — so he could not use it as an issue against Joseph R. Biden Jr. He thinks immigration is more potent than ever as a political message, after the record levels of border crossings under the Biden-Harris administration and after he helped kill a bipartisan border security bill that the administration tried to pass.

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TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: border; immigration; jonathanswan; maggiehaberman; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; ruthigielnik; smearcampaign; trump
“That beats out the economy. That beats it all out to me, it’s not even close,” Mr. Trump said of the immigration issue...

It is not an "immigration" issue.

It is an illegal alien invasion issue.

1 posted on 10/19/2024 10:18:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Huey, Dewey and Louie doing another Trump basher for the New Yawk Slimes.


2 posted on 10/19/2024 10:23:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I've come to the conclusion that the world is made up of millions of Three Stooges comedians.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why does the NYT need 3 writers for such drivel.


3 posted on 10/19/2024 10:23:50 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

the border (or rather, lack of it) is indeed a major issue
(especially with the flood of Islamicists surging into USA)

but the ECONOMY and JOBS and almost run-away INFLATION (LOWERING STANDARD OF LIVING) ..... this is the biggest issue for most voters

I hope the Trump campaign keeps pushing on this!
(including the pitiful and insulting teenyweeny 2.5% “COLA” for Social Security pensioners....when the real cost of living is around 20% or more......Biden/Harris regime is driving retirees straight into poverty with its fake economic data


4 posted on 10/19/2024 10:35:16 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That rascally Orange Rogue is always bring up issues.

“How dare him.”/sarc


5 posted on 10/19/2024 10:36:27 AM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: DallasBiff

“Why does the NYT need 3 writers for such drivel.”

So each one can claim the others wrote it and then no one will be held accountable.


6 posted on 10/19/2024 10:40:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The border would take 3 weeks or so to completely secure. But it’s been a lawless, violent free for all for over 50 years.

Fact is the border should have ceased being an issue many decades ago.

What does this mean?

It means the corrupt running government never had any intention whatsoever of securing the border.


7 posted on 10/19/2024 10:43:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: faithhopecharity
Economy, Jobs and Inflation are all related to the border.

We have imported, conservatively, 11 million people in the past 4 years. Plus about 6 million legally.

That is an awful lot of people for even a nation as large as ours to absorb in four years.

And all of these people need resources. Housing, clothing, food. With the government supporting them they are able to work for less and so they drive the native born out of their jobs. Government is covering their rent so rent rises to the level of government subsidy and food goes up because that is what happens when you have something that suddenly has a higher demand.

It is all the border.

Fix that and start removing the people who should not be here in the first place and your problems begin to drop into the fixable range.

8 posted on 10/19/2024 10:57:50 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: dragnet2

So true the border could be locked down and all illegal entry from Mexico stopped in several days. Just make it known deadly force will be used against any one caught sneaking across. Then do it for a couple of days. Watch what happen. Then we got crack down on any Canadian shenanigans should leftist try some sort of airlift. Start deporting people dreamers first


9 posted on 10/19/2024 11:00:48 AM PDT by datricker (Go Trump/Vance!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

Despite the fact that Trump built 500+ miles of WALL, Trump keeps saying our border is “wide open.” Further ore he should state that he isn’t finished.


10 posted on 10/19/2024 11:15:33 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NYT ( NOT YOUR TRUTH )


11 posted on 10/19/2024 11:35:46 AM PDT by Pearfect (Ou can't beat the competition lock-in)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

thanks for that analysis

well, if Trump talks about the border being wide open, FINE
but
if Trump explains that the lack of a border is a root cause of our Standard of Living going DOWN DOWN DOWN under the D regime,
all the better

people FEEL the inflation when they have to return overpriced groceries to the shelf and when they can’t afford to go to a diner or a show anymore, or when they can’t afford to heat their homes, or put gas in their cars

votes truly go by “are you better off than you were 4 years ago???” Ronald Reagan

it has to be brought right straight home to the voter, not just spoken of secondarily in the context of the border problem

my thought anyway
best,
fhc


12 posted on 10/19/2024 11:47:41 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mind readers know what Trump is thinking.

Oh, and mind readers don’t exist.


13 posted on 10/19/2024 12:04:49 PM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: faithhopecharity
people FEEL the inflation when they have to return overpriced groceries to the shelf and when they can’t afford to go to a diner or a show anymore, or when they can’t afford to heat their homes, or put gas in their cars

Quite correct.

One thing about food that it seems many people are missing is how much "poor people" food has gone up.

You used to be able to shop store brands and basic food stuffs and be ok. It was not an exciting menu but it was a balance diet.

Eggs, bread, milk, potatoes, carrots, onions and a bit of stew meat used to be what you saw in the carts of people who were on a budget. Oatmeal used to be a buck fifty a box. It is now over five dollars. Soup that was 50 cents a can is now a dollar twenty-five. The cheapest Ramen was ten cents a pack, it is now thirty cents a pack. Box mac and cheese has gone from 50 cents to a dollar.

We grow a lot of our food so until I started taking a neighbor of ours to the store I did not see what was going on as strongly.

14 posted on 10/19/2024 12:12:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thanks for the info

Yes. Basic foods and lower- cost store or private brands for folks on limited budgets have gone up at least as much as more expensive brand- names foods. It is a very serious strain on people. And they don’t deserve to be treated this way


15 posted on 10/19/2024 1:04:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump was right then and he is right now. He should appoint Stephen Miller as Border Czar with instructions to go scorched earth on closing the border and sending every single illegal home. And to take no prisoners when the Left tries to stymie everything with lawfare suits in front of rabidly leftist judges.


16 posted on 10/19/2024 2:07:22 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: faithhopecharity
(including the pitiful and insulting teenyweeny 2.5% “COLA” for Social Security pensioners....when the real cost of living is around 20% or more......Biden/Harris regime is driving retirees straight into poverty with its fake economic data

I will add to your complaint a couple of tid bits that are studiously ignored by the left wing press. A significant percentage of those who are employed have not seen a raise and another traunch have not seen raises commensurate with inflation. Remember a classic response from economists to people complaining about rising prices is "would you accept the wages from then": a lot of people today respond I have not had a raise since then.

The social Security COLA may accurately reflect *WAGE* inflation, which is lower than price inflation.

17 posted on 10/19/2024 2:27:16 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: Fraxinus

yes, the vast majority of Americans have suffered major downscaling of their standards of living in the last 3 or 4 years, partly at least due to no COLAs or ridiculously teenyweeny “COLAs” like the Social Security retirees get from the fake economic index used for them

anyone who votes for a continuation of the Biden/Harris economic (and yes, border) policies is NUTZ! self-destructive or suidical


18 posted on 10/19/2024 4:01:56 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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