Posted on 10/12/2024 4:39:31 PM PDT by Libloather
Aloha spirit be damned, the Hawaii Supreme Court has deemed the oil industry unwelcome in the state.
In a ruling late last year, the court affirmed that the city of Honolulu could file a lawsuit alleging that Sunoco, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, and an assortment of other companies have caused it injury via their products’ greenhouse gas emissions.
Now it may be up to the US Supreme Court to set the matter straight: Is climate change an area of special federal interest or can states give Big Oil the boot? If the latter, the outcome from 50 new sets of legal hoops is inevitably higher energy prices for all Americans.
Honolulu’s core claim is that the oil companies’ “efforts between 1965 and the present to deceive about the consequences of the normal use of their fossil fuel products” constitute tortious conduct.”
The chain of reasoning is that Sunoco et al have marketed and sold products that, when combusted, emit carbon dioxide and other gasses, exacerbating the greenhouse effect, warming the planet, melting glaciers, and causing sea levels to rise.
That rising water, the argument goes, has caused “historical, projected, and committed disruptions to the environment — and consequent injuries to the City.”
Honolulu’s claim underscores how difficult climate damage attribution really is. Yes, emissions add incrementally to sea level rise. But, no, we cannot attribute with confidence a portion of the cost of managing rising water to particular companies.
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No more oil products for Hawaii. I wonder how quickly they would drop the lawsuit. 🤡
Hawaii should show the way and immediately ban oil, gas, natural gas, all products made from these hydrocarbons, including any electricity made from them, and any so-called “clean” energy items made from them like solar panels and batteries.
No more Cruise Ships or Planes
What about the benefits of fossil fuels?
Here’s a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation...
125 years of FF use.
Average life expectancy rose by 25, maybe 30 years because of technology using FF.
Average of 125 million Americans during that 125 years.
125 * 25 * 125,000,000 = 390,625,000,000 person-years of happy, productive life that would not have happened before FF.
That is almost 400 BILLION person-years of life people were blessed with by using FF.
There’s NO calculation that shows any sort of benefit like that deriving from stopping FF use.
My great nephew saw the snow in nyc last year that he was never supposed to see, according to algore:)
Flashback 2000: ‘Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past’ – ‘Children just aren’t going to know what snow is’ – UK Independent
When global warming goes to court it loses with the facts.
This is another step on the way of killing global warming.
This is an ideal opportunity! The oil companies, with new justification, should band together to neglect the island their products and services. This will send a message that will echo for decades.
Hawa-eeee should entirely embrace wind and solar. No gas cars allowed by the end of 2025. IF they really care, using petrol power to and from should also be forbidden. Sailing ships only.
Only all natural wooden surfboards harvested in an eco friendly replenishing way. No plastics, including credit cards, for Hawaii. No cellphones, satellite dishes, or bikinis made of synthetic materials. Move the Navy out of Pearl, and stop all ships that burn diesel or bunker fuel from approaching the islands. Sorry girls no more plastic surgery.
No more planes landing or taking off. And forget exports, there is now way to ship it, except clipper ship. Just a dumb democrat way to get money in the party slush fund.
“Honolulu’s core claim is that the oil companies’ “efforts between 1965 and the present...”
Why start with 1965? Why not start with the beginning of oil companies in Hawaii?
If oil companies are held liable because their products produce CO2 when consumed, then why wouldn’t food companies also be held liable?
The day they file is the last day I’d deliver any products to the state
Next up: humans.
I suspect pretty quickly.
Waters have been rising for eons.
I live on the big island of Hawaii. Have lived here 24 years now.
I get tired of the rest of the country thinking
Honolulu is Hawaii. Honolulu is a Democrat hornets nest.
It is NOT Hawaii!
You want to get even? Cut off supplies to Honolulu!
Most of my fuel comes from San Diego or B.C. Canada direct.
You could nuke Honolulu into oblivion and we would do just fine. Actually without Honolulu our lives would improve!
Just cut them off from all petroleum products, watch what happens
Most of the low-info types think Waikiki beach IS Hawaii.
Fake news supports that ignorance.
The thought that there are other islands or non-democrats in Hawaii causes cognitive dissonance.
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