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End of functional life concerns, thoughts. (Old age, disease, disability, etc)
Me, myself and I | 10/02/2024

Posted on 10/02/2024 6:49:49 PM PDT by Az Joe

After seeing Carter being wheeled outside yesterday on his 100th birthday I, being 70, couldn't help feeling some sympathy for him and some fear of being in the same situation somedays. He looked oblivious to his surroundings and maybe pretty miserable.

I watched my sister deteriorate and die last May from complication's associated with Parkinson's disease over several years, especially in her last few months. She was very miserable and helpless to do almost anything for herself.

If she had wanted to kill herself and end her early misery, she would have been helpless to do it on her own. In the end, she went into hospice care and lasted almost exactly 2 weeks before she died. The hospice worker said when she was being admitted that she probably had about 2 weeks, (I guess they have seen it many times).

My faith requires that I would be expected to endure my medical condition, whatever it was, until my natural end. Of course, this may impact my loved ones greatly, who would be caring for me at least in some ways until the end.

I don't like the idea of all the suffering that might entail for me but also the burden I would be on especially my only child, and other loved ones who are currently dying off themselves slowly.

Any thoughts Freepers?


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To: Openurmind

What a wonderful story - so glad you had that kind of bond with the nurse.

My mom had ALS and my brothers were set against hospice (they had the misunderstanding of what hospice is like so many) and the end for her was just horrible. No supportive measures or pain relief, we could never get ahold of her doctor in time to help her with anything. Her end of life wishes were not honored and she ended being put on a vent which she never wanted and begged us to never let happen. It was just a nightmare.

We had to shop around to find a good hospice agency, and then find the best nurses and CNAs in the agency through trial and error, but it was really a godsend for us.


161 posted on 10/03/2024 6:42:15 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Clarification… the hospice was for my FIL. My mom never got hospice.


162 posted on 10/03/2024 6:45:39 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Az Joe

You’re welcome and thank you!


163 posted on 10/03/2024 7:30:01 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (“Killer rabbit jokes have a long tradition in medieval literature.“ - Dr. James Wade)
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To: FamiliarFace

Thank you, FamiliarFace.

It was from the heart.

:-)


164 posted on 10/03/2024 7:31:20 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (“Killer rabbit jokes have a long tradition in medieval literature.“ - Dr. James Wade)
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To: BipolarBob

‘Morbid ones’——
Yuppers...
It’s hard to say “The Bright Side is...”
with the Grim Reaper making the rounds.


165 posted on 10/03/2024 7:33:21 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: BaldJohn

👆💯


166 posted on 10/03/2024 7:36:19 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: LilFarmer

Oh man, hospice is priceless for many reasons.

Personal on call CNA and Nurse care aside from the regular scheduled visits several times a week.

A Doctor only one phone call away from the Nurse with no appointment needed.

Care supplies like pullups/diapers, wipes, bandages, chucks, wheel chair, hospital bed delivered and set up, bedside table, bedside potty, Scripts called in and delivered to the front door with an hour, Etc. Etc.

But here is the huge one, legalities when they pass. Evrything is prearranged when they do pass and goes smoothly and hassle free. You call the Nurse and they handle everything even declaring and documenting the death and cause of death. And arrange removal.

Now in many states if you do not have this and call 911 to report the death a cop comes first because it is a death. Then he calls EMS, Then the body goes to where THEY want it to go while the officer immediately starts the mandatory investigation of elder abuse. I have seen this situation get ugly, and have had friends go to jail because of the total incompetence of the incompassionate and unsensitive officer during a highly emotional time and situation. He is trying to find a reason to throw someone in jail at the very very worst of times for the emotional family. Just like with minors, you are automatically guilty of elder abuse/neglect. And now you have a huge legal mess to get the body released to the funeral home you have to deal with on top of it.

It can be an absolute huge legal mess when law enforcement and EMS are involved. Hospice totally eliminates this whole messy legal situation and hardships.


167 posted on 10/03/2024 8:22:53 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: trebb

“Getting old isn’t for sissies...”

LOL You win the prize for recognizing the humor! ;-)


168 posted on 10/03/2024 8:50:14 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star! ;-))
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To: kiryandil

“Of course, I’ve got to put on some more mileage to catch up to you.”

OK, fair enough. Just don’t say that you weren’t warned such as I not being warned. ;-)

At 70 the dog and I were chasing each other around the yard and enjoying it. I still work in the yard/garden but it takes 3 - 4 times longer than it did years ago. I have to keep stopping to rest. ;-)


169 posted on 10/03/2024 8:56:18 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star! ;-))
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To: Az Joe

Trust Jesus.

Your purgation of the effects of sin may start before you die. Accept that God knows whay He is doing and you woukd agree with it with clapping hands if you knew what He knew.

Suffer for the abortions that others may come to know Christ.


170 posted on 10/03/2024 9:13:06 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: ifinnegan

>>They time the opiate induced death pretty well.

I believe this is true - Hospice is essentially assisted suicide by another name. I’ve made my end of life pre-directive based upon that belief.


171 posted on 10/03/2024 9:51:00 AM PDT by torqemada (If Democrats had any honor at all, they would off themselves for the greater good.)
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To: torqemada

“Palliative Care” is the same.


172 posted on 10/03/2024 9:55:46 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: alexander_busek

Thou shalt not MURDER.

How kill got substituted in so many Bibles I do not know. There is a huge difference.

People who need killing? Who decides the need?


173 posted on 10/03/2024 10:08:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: fso301
I have the same cynical thoughts as you regarding Carter. That he will be "allowed" to finally expire just before the election, in which we have wall-to-wall coverage of a state funeral along with the outpouring of accolades and remininsces from pretty much every prominent national Democrat (and some Republicans as well) on what a fine man Jimmy was. All well and good I suppose - I think he was a crappy president but I don't hate the man.

No doubt the sympathy factor alone could be enough to tilt a close election the Democrat's way for any campaigning on Trump's part during the week or so of "national mourning" will be seen in poor taste and definitely portrayed that way by the Trump-hating MSM, while the Democrats will be allowed to be "political" to their hearts content during that time.

Yes, that's me being cynical. Hopefully the race is not that close should that scenario occur.

On another note, we had to put my Dad in hospice just over a year ago. He lingered most of last summer, took a real toll on the family as we saw that he was not coming back and in the last weeks, barely aware of our presence around him. My father stated for years that he never wanted any heroic measures taken, that he wanted a quick death and not be kept alive when things were medically hopeless. He especially did not want to be a burden on others in his dying days.

However, it's one thing to say that and quite another to have it play out. During hospice, we kept him as comfortable as possible and abided by his wishes for no heroic measures but being the tough bastard he is, it took him months to finally expire. (I call him "tough bastard" in the most affectionate way.)

174 posted on 10/03/2024 10:09:41 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (7,797,618 Truth | 91,192,773 Twitter)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I’m 57. This is not pleasant stuff to face. Hopefully, my running will keep me from the worst of it.

You can run, but you can't hide.

Regards,

175 posted on 10/03/2024 10:15:48 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Az Joe

As the old saying foes, The only thing Golden about the Golden years is your urine.


176 posted on 10/03/2024 10:19:27 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Az Joe

Consider yourself fortunate you have loved ones to assist with care. I do not. Once my health reaches a certain stage, I will cash in my hidden account and go see the people at Last Resort. I will not become a burden, and I will die with dignity on my own terms.


177 posted on 10/03/2024 11:05:28 AM PDT by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: alexander_busek

Eventually, we all end. It’s not the death that worries me, it’s the dying.


178 posted on 10/03/2024 12:27:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: dp0622

Dude - you live!

I hope you’ve been doing better.


179 posted on 10/03/2024 12:31:50 PM PDT by Kommodor (Solzhenitsyn was an optimist...)
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To: Kommodor

I dont remember. Started drinking fourish years ago and kinda stopped recently :)

Hoping I dont have to another 4 years!

Hope all is well!


180 posted on 10/03/2024 12:50:49 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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