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1 posted on 09/28/2024 7:38:52 PM PDT by Red Badger
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The best way to end range anxiety is to do your homework before getting an EV and make sure an EV is a good fit for your driving habits as one of your two cars.

But that assumes a free market perspective -- something the Dims hate.

2 posted on 09/28/2024 7:44:49 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Copper thieves agree.


3 posted on 09/28/2024 7:45:55 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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Of... they give up on battery powered toys and come up with other solutions for a non-existent problem.


4 posted on 09/28/2024 7:46:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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No problem!

5 posted on 09/28/2024 7:47:47 PM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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How are they going to put up hundreds of thousands of secure charging stations, and where is the energy going to come from?

This appears one third dumb, two thirds evil.


6 posted on 09/28/2024 7:48:28 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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It’s all wish-casting without actual engineering data and real world testing to back it up.

Until chargers take the same amount of time to charge and have similar range as ICE, it’s never going to happen. Besides, I’ve seen plenty of chargers out of order or vandalized.


7 posted on 09/28/2024 7:49:43 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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End range anxiety.
Drill baby drill. Get rid of foolish electric cars


9 posted on 09/28/2024 7:53:08 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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Battery cars have one thing. Incredible low end torque without wear and tear like tuned up diesels. Everything else is a negative. As unintended consequences continue to appear the cars will disappear.


11 posted on 09/28/2024 7:57:12 PM PDT by anton
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The “range anxiety” pejorative.

Reminds me of “vaccine hesitancy”


12 posted on 09/28/2024 7:57:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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My apartment lease specifically bans EVs. Reason is the documented fire hazard of the lithium ion battery packs, and the difficulty of putting out a battery fire. Also, the current power network in the complex is far too small to support a fleet of EVs and their charging requirements.

So the battery ban is easily fixed by developing batteries that don't turn like a Roman candle. Once that is fixed, then my apartment complex can look into the cost of beefing up the power, assuming the power company can supply the juice. And we the poor renters will need to deal with the capital improvement costs that would increase the rent rate.

I'm sure the insurance companies will put up their own roadblocks. And how about those greenies who would block expansion of the electrical grid?

15 posted on 09/28/2024 8:05:55 PM PDT by asinclair (It's too bad there will never be a RICO indictment of the DNC.)
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And the electricity to charge them comes from where exactly?


16 posted on 09/28/2024 8:06:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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I’ve got a far better and far cheaper solution that can be implemented tonight...abandon EVs because they are a ridiculous solution to a non-existent problem.


17 posted on 09/28/2024 8:11:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (May the soy boys, feminazis, and alphabet weirdos choke on the toxic fumes of our masculinity)
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Minus the 20 million out of service.


20 posted on 09/28/2024 8:30:10 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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I’m fine with the concept of EV’s, but having trouble with the execution.

The tech is NOT there yet to force the world into petroleum free living.


21 posted on 09/28/2024 8:31:33 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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I’d be less concerned with range than surviving the trip without becoming a crispy critter.


23 posted on 09/28/2024 8:35:13 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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Hello, EV owner:

Your phone GPS says you are traveling a long way. Your vehicle has an estimated range of 350 miles.

In cooperation with your vehicle manufacturer, participating restaurants and motels are offering the following discounts:

ClownBurger, 275 miles from last charge point, 10% off your meal + free charge
MormonMotel, 280 miles from last charge point, 10% off our typical daily rate + free charge
RoyalBurger, 285 miles from last charge point, 10% off your meal + free charge + free fries with every sandwich over $5


24 posted on 09/28/2024 8:36:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Kamala: "understand that some people need more, so we all end up in the same place, right?”)
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“Unprecedented” large leaps in advancements of battery tech, required.

Copper RATIONING.

Charging stations require articulated arm that “takes” the weight of managing the “hose” and “nozzle” so people who are unable to lift the HEAVY cable that has the faster charge rate . . . do not a) die, nor b) get a hernia.

Compressed air hose and “gun,” so the person who handles the recharging physics, can blast air upon the “nozzle” tip and “receptacle” . . . and clear away the dirt/dust (that is going to accumulate).

SYSTEM that lets every EV “know” what charging stations are working (and how well) and where.

HEATING SYSTEM so charging station is not FROZEN “when you get there?!”

Overhead Shelters for all charging stations.

SENSING SYSTEM that alerts charging station’s maintainer, that “an Arizona man” just walked off with the “hose.”


28 posted on 09/28/2024 9:16:14 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Still way too long for a “fill up”


29 posted on 09/28/2024 9:28:15 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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"... 28 million EV chargers by 2030...."

If we have enough battery-only EVs to keep those 28 million chargers busy, we'll also be having frequent brown-outs in ever major city in the US.

31 posted on 09/28/2024 9:40:39 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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I have owned no less than five vehicles that have less range in the gas tank than my Model 3 Tesla has in it’s pack which is 360 miles. My 1979 K5 blazer has well under 250 miles to the tank. 1985 Jeep Cherokee 260 ish, My 91 Rx7 had under 300. My 93 S10 also well under 300 miles to a tank. 97 Explorer was 270 a tank. 2003 F150 was just at 300 miles. Only my imports went 400+ miles the SAAB and both my Volvos both were the first vehicles I have ever owned that would do 400+

The important thing is not max range as these vehicles demonstrate its how rapidly and conveniently you refill that range. The trucks took 10 min or so to put 25 gallons in the cars were 15 to 18gal.

Tesla has solved this issue for its EVs the Model 3 will take a 250kw rate you can add 4.4kWh per min over the SOC range of 10% to 70% it slows down to balance the cells above 70%. Not quite but close it starts off at 100kw then ramps up once the BMS makes sure all the cells are in temp range then it rapidly goes up to 250 and holds it there till 70% and starts to ramp down as it starts to balance cells nearing 80% cut off. I can add 250 miles in 25 min on average at a V3 supercharger.

Since nearly no one drives more than 300 miles in a day on a regular basis, L2 home or condo charging is a better option you just get home take 30 seconds to pop the door and plug the plug then go zzzzzz. Yes people drive far on average twice per year farther than 400 miles from home. In reality for those two edge cases which is what they are edge cases you can rent a hybrid car if you only had an EV with 300 miles range and no supercharger along the way.


32 posted on 09/28/2024 9:48:54 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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