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Vance Declines to Denounce Carlson After Interview With Holocaust Revisionist
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 6, 2024, 9:42 a.m. ET | Jonathan Weisman

Posted on 09/06/2024 9:05:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Senator JD Vance, the running mate of former President Donald J. Trump, has declined to denounce the right-wing talk-show host Tucker Carlson for praising and airing the views of a Holocaust revisionist who falsely claimed that the Nazis’ destruction of European Jewry was not an intentional act of premeditated genocide.

Mr. Vance is scheduled to appear onstage Sept. 21 with Mr. Carlson in Hershey, Pa. Mr. Carlson no stranger to controversy, but his recent interview with Darryl Cooper, whom he described as “the best and most honest popular historian in the United States,” has faced particularly fierce blowback.

The Nazis’ “final solution” for the Jewish population of Europe was meticulously planned, documented and pursued even after the tide of World War II had turned and Germany’s defeat was assured. Yet Mr. Cooper, in an interview with Mr. Carlson shared on the social media site X earlier this week, falsely claimed the Holocaust was an accident of history, perpetrated by a German military overwhelmed with prisoners of war.

After the German army swept through Eastern Europe, he said, “they went in with no plan for that and they just threw these people into camps. And millions of people ended up dead there.”

Mr. Cooper went on to say that Winston Churchill, the British prime minister, “was the chief villain of the Second World War” for declaring war on Germany after the Nazis invaded Poland.

In a statement to The Jewish Insider, a Vance campaign spokesman wrote, “Senator Vance doesn’t believe in guilt-by-association cancel culture but he obviously does not share the views of the guest interviewed by Tucker Carlson. There are no stronger supporters of our allies in Israel or the Jewish community in America than Senator Vance and President Trump.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: cancelculture; fullcourtmediapress; jonathanweisman; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; weismansupportsjihad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The NY Times playing the old game of “refuses to denounce”.


21 posted on 09/06/2024 9:37:06 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: nitzy
I truly have no idea why Mr. Weisman is saying this.

Because he is paid by bosses that believe they must destroy anyone associated with President Trump, or especially those who might work for him in the future.

It's probably been 2 weeks since I first saw mention of Carlson having a possible position in the Trump Administration.

Didn't take long for them to target Carlson.

22 posted on 09/06/2024 9:38:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( )
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To: joshua c

Yeah, we have. He spent an hour and 40 minutes interviewing the guy and he most certainly did NOT say the holocaust was an accident, didn’t happen, or that Hitler wasn’t so bad.

This entire kerfuffle is a flat out lie.

Why they actually hate this historian is that he spent most of the interview saying the ruling class of the UK and EU despise their own people, and are replacing them. That the UK, Germany, France etc are losing the only place in the world dedicated to their thousand year old cultures, and they must fight their way out of this now, or it is unrecoverable.
He was solidly justifying the UK “riots” as legitimate self defense.

People who haven’t heard the interview need to before they explain it to us.


23 posted on 09/06/2024 9:39:31 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hear that American Jews? Ignore the “river to the sea” chants and Jewish professors and students being subject to violence and threats. Pay attention to an interview conducted by Tucker Carlson as the real threat.


24 posted on 09/06/2024 9:39:35 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: HYPOCRACY
The NYT are the original holocaust deniers and nazi supporters.

Long before Adolph Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers' Party went about committing mass murder ...

The New York Times was covering up Josef Stalin's mass murder in Ukraine.

25 posted on 09/06/2024 9:39:38 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: nitzy

Look at my post 23, It’s his comments on 2024 Europe, not 1941. THAT is why they are actually angry about him.


26 posted on 09/06/2024 9:43:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: nitzy
We have built the entire post-WW2 geo-political order on the mythology of Hitler being the scape goat for every evil thing that has existed in modern times.

Big Media is and has been dominated by communists. The USSR was communist and influenced communist movements all over the world. Big Education was and is dominated by communists. Russia is, today, the personal plaything of a former KGB officer. China is, today, the plaything of the Chinese Communist Party.

Communists have committed, and continue to commit, more evil than Herr Hitler and his National Socialists ever dreamt of.

OF COURSE Hitler is the Icon of All Evil. Communists can't have the finger pointed at them, now. That just wouldn't do.

27 posted on 09/06/2024 9:44:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So Vance has to denounce tucker because of an interview tucker did with some moron denier WTF NY times is I can’t say or I’ll get banned


28 posted on 09/06/2024 9:45:56 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Aren't the Democratic Party and NYT 'holocaust revisionists' by allowing demonic terrorists like Hamas into the tent of the party without condemning and forcibly removing them, while simultaneously kicking to the curb one their most loyal voting base, namely American Jews??

Any American Jew who votes for Harris/Walz and other Democratic candidates are WAY beyond self-loathing and insane ...

29 posted on 09/06/2024 9:46:05 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Its ironic how the Slimes who are the biggest Jew and Israel haters, now pretend like they care about the Jews..the Slimes themselves denied the holocaust even happened


30 posted on 09/06/2024 9:49:03 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: nitzy
For some reason it is socially acceptable to have a myriad of differing opinions on WW1, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc... but to question one word of the WW2 mythology is grounds for an immediate cancelling.

I assume this is because our (ie. US run) entire present global financial, security, and political order sprung from WWII, and depends on maintaining this simplistic mythology.

And not because our socially-accepted history is all a pack of lies, either. Its is not. Rather, it is just that it has been over-simplified, with any sordid details that do not show favorably on this story having been removed.

One thing is for undeniably certain - Churchill, and especially those closest to him from his class and generation, took the UK from dominant global empire in 1914, to bankruptcy and also-ran status in a short span of 30-35 years.

A truly wise leader would have avoided such a fate. A stupid one is destroyed by it. An average one just survives it.

31 posted on 09/06/2024 9:54:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NorthMountain

Cooper pointed out communism was the most lethal ideology of the 20th century. And he said the nazis managed to be more horrifying in a way by making it a carefully organized and coordinated mass murder assembly line.

Then he spoke long about the modern leaders of the UK and EU and how they despise their own people and culture and most be stopped.


32 posted on 09/06/2024 9:55:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And how many times have the New York Times asked dims to denounce someone from their side? Never?


33 posted on 09/06/2024 10:00:16 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum (I’m )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think Tucker Carlson is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to impacting undecided and swing state voters.

I think Vance is pretty much irrelevant as well.

Tucker and Vance are just providing click bait for their fan boys who are solidly in the Trump camp.

I’m interested in the box Joe Rogan seems to be in.

He gave a non-endorsement endorsement of RFK Jr. before Kennedy jumped aboard the Trump train.

I’m no fan of Rogan but he has an audience comprised of a lot of 2016 Biden voters who could be moved this time around to vote for Trump.

I don’t think he can endorse Komrade Kammy which is why he made the non-endorsement endorsement of RFK Jr.

But as tough as he may want to portray himself, I doubt if he has the balls to endorse Trump.


34 posted on 09/06/2024 10:04:37 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: JimRed

Exactly! How will we find the actual truth? It’s sure not by listening to theNYT description of someone’s speech.
the best way to counter speech one doesn’t agree with is not with censorship but with more speech. -Brandeis


35 posted on 09/06/2024 10:05:08 AM PDT by griswold3 ( Robespierre and Pol Pot were “unburdened by what has been” Harris the "Year Zero" candidate)
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To: PGR88

Cooper (nor any other sane person) doesn’t believe that the narrative of WW2 is a “pack of lies”. Rather, that there are pieces and parts which should be interpreted differently than how they have been. Unfortunately, this is not allowed for this one particular war.

We must believe that Hitler’s treatment of the Jews was UNIQUELY evil while the millions killed by Stalin or Mao was just “common evil”. Any other view is apostasy to the new world order.

Cooper tries to unpack why this is and what it’s ramifications are today.


36 posted on 09/06/2024 10:10:42 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Did Carlson start smoking weed?


37 posted on 09/06/2024 10:10:51 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: NorthMountain

There is one group with more power over Big Media than communists...that would be Jewish Zionists.

I’m not discounting the rest of what you are saying but I think tribalism is more of the motivation than ideology but they are certainly both extremely relevant.


38 posted on 09/06/2024 10:17:18 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: nitzy

YOU ATE A FAULSE PROFFESSOR, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.


39 posted on 09/06/2024 10:17:36 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Perfect answer by Vance.


40 posted on 09/06/2024 10:18:15 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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