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The "Paradise" called El Salvador
Time Magazine ^ | August 29, 2024 | Vera Bergengruen/San Salvador

Posted on 08/31/2024 7:19:10 AM PDT by Racketeer

I told them, "Don't just take my word for it, because of course I'll speak positively about us and the government. But you're already here—you've got your cameras, paid for your plane tickets, booked your hotel rooms, and set up your internet. You've got everything: the people, the photographers, and the video cameras. Go to the streets. Ask people and don't go where--"

"Yes, go there, but don't limit yourselves to the most public or prominent places where the government might have some influence. No. Go anywhere. It is so safe that you can walk into any dark alley without any problem. Go to a community—head into a rural area without many people. You might hear a dog barking in the distance, but that doesn't matter. Go anywhere, ask the people. It will be rare if you find a negative opinion among the population."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: beautiful; btccity; bukele; elsalvador; peaceful; tldr; travel
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Are you that tight with US intelligence and El Salvadoran government folks?

Because Bukele is going to publicize that they’re heading north, en masse? Probably not. If MS13 knows that, if they come here they will no longer be chased by the cops and government, what will it do? I wonder.

Did Castro publicize that he emptied his prisons and insane asylums?

Has Maduro publicized that he’s emptied his prisons?

Do we know if Jingping is sending Chinese military, en masse, or is he emptying his prisons?

Boggles the mind how gullible people are.


21 posted on 08/31/2024 8:45:04 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Racketeer
Tucker Carlson interviews President Bukele

Bukele: Seeking God’s Wisdom, Taking Down MS-13, Advice to Trump

Bukele says he sought God’s wisdom and prayed regarding the gang situation . American politicans worship evil, so there is the difference.

22 posted on 08/31/2024 8:47:51 AM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: OldHarbor

He sought God’s wisdom and then applied brute, violent force.


23 posted on 08/31/2024 8:52:20 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: butterdezillion

What will I learn reading a article from Time, that I can’t get from comments on this thread.

Ohhhhhh…El Salvador is so great, wonderful, awesome.

Why do they still come here? Why do their women still want to give birth to an instant citizen in an American hospital that the U.S. taxpayers pay for, forever?

Boggles the mind.

We, the US “kind, caring, compassionate” taxpayer gets played on an hourly basis. SMDH!!


24 posted on 08/31/2024 8:55:46 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Not sure who pissed in your wheaties this morning…

But human rights groups are outraged by the prisons, which is a good sign.

I don’t know if any news confirming your view.

I know an American from El Salvador who has confirmed the situation on the ground as reported.

If you have facts post them, or go finish your cereal.


25 posted on 08/31/2024 8:58:35 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: Racketeer; All

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/no-childhood-here-why-central-american-children-are-fleeing-their-homes

Then as now, over 95 percent were from Mexico and the Central American nations of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-unable-to-track-nearly-300k-immigrant-children-dhs-report/ar-AA1ptdYQ


26 posted on 08/31/2024 9:00:03 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Racketeer

I lived in El Salvador for 5 years when it was coming apart.

This is real. The country is ripe for economic investment.


27 posted on 08/31/2024 9:00:20 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I know an American from El Salvador who has confirmed the situation on the ground as reported

How is that person an American?

What is the situation on the ground? That El Salvador is a beacon of safety? A Shangri-La? Why because all the bad people are in jail?

Or because a lot of them are now living in the US, because the current admin, Congress, and states have turned the country into one big sanctuary country?


29 posted on 08/31/2024 9:04:22 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: DIRTYSECRET
There’s a lot of gang bangers packed like sardines in their new prisons. We need to give them the aid to construct more and take back the ones that are here. The recent YouTube video suggested there are 40k of them locked up . How they don’t riot is beyond me. If that’s what it takes we should be all for it.

Just another “racist” locking up all those promising “youths.” Probably grabbed them off the street while they were on their way to church, after making a stop for some Skittles and iced tea.

30 posted on 08/31/2024 9:04:28 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Racketeer
Maybe El Salvador actually closed its border? It's not full of migrants because they won't let them in?

Maybe they actually jail illegals, or deport them immediately?

Maybe El Salvador doesn't give free housing, free medical care, free food, free phones, SNAP cards to illegals?

31 posted on 08/31/2024 9:06:25 AM PDT by ZOOKER
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To: Racketeer

Is it strange for you to see your name, across the world, now be synonymous with iron fist policies on security matters?”

Again, copying and pasting Time

With what has been in this country since Reagan and Kennedy duping him to sign the immigration act, no one should believe anything coming from any source or government mouthpiece.

Had Bukele solved the problems? Maybe. He had a lot of help building and filling prisons. Awesome.

There was an article that spoke of how many of his prisoners were rehabbed and released. Were they rehabbed? Or were they smart, played the game, got “rehabbed” and released and started heading north?

El Salvador is becoming an ExPat destination. WHO do they want? Americans with money to spend or MS13?

So, MS13 leave so we can make room for Americans with money.


32 posted on 08/31/2024 9:11:30 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Racketeer

I watched this Tucker Carlson interview with Bukele and it’s fantastic.

If they can do it, we can.

Bukele: Seeking God’s Wisdom, Taking Down MS-13, Advice to Trump
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-interview-bukele


33 posted on 08/31/2024 9:15:50 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: Racketeer

He raised to much hell on the gangs that they live in the USA now.


34 posted on 08/31/2024 9:15:59 AM PDT by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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To: ZOOKER

Actually, they are reportedly heading back.

Except the criminals, that stay here thanks to our traitorous government.


35 posted on 08/31/2024 9:16:53 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: qaz123

He also gave an interview with Tucker Carlson, in which he said these same things and more.

He said that when a country decides they want a problem fixed, they will elect somebody who will fix it. He said that if a problem persists it’s because somebody wants it to persist and finds a way to make it persist. The implication is that the people who benefit from a problem politically will make sure that the problem is never solved. The first step is to take away any benefits for the problem.

In the US, that means keep illegals from voting and stop the child trafficking for sex and body parts. Do that, and the politicians making sure it happens here will lose any reason to keep it going.

He also spoke about how their governing bodies regularly pray about what to do.

What happened in El Salvador seems to have truly been an awakening of the people and a blessing by God of a people which repented of a seemingly hopeless culture they had created. That desire for a 180 was so complete that not even the corrupt Supreme Court could steal the election.

Hearing his interview with Tucker Carlson caused me to re-think a lot of things. I believe now more firmly than ever that the US is in a spiritual crisis - that we have become the third-world country we are now because the people have given their thoughts over to a satanic movement.

Some of the gang members have obviously evaded arrest because they are here in the US. He says that there are still probably a couple thousand gang members in El Salvador, and they are catching and arresting gang members regularly. They also have people who aren’t gang members but cooperated with the gangs. The ones who reported police activity to help the gang members evade arrest are not necessarily prosecuted because they may have done it to stay alive, but some participated in killings and have to be arrested and imprisoned.

He estimates that half a million people were accessories to gangs. My opinion is that a lot of the El Salvadorans coming across the border now are accessories to the gangs, or people who aren’t willing to wait for the El Salvador economy to be fixed, now that the issue of security has been solved.

In this article he recognizes that what created these gang members was partially the fault of the government but now that the damage is done to these people it can’t be undone. They aren’t being imprisoned to punish them but to keep them off the streets. They receive the same kind of food that the rest of the population receives and they are not allowed to use the internet. I presume, based on what he’s said, that they will NOT be released because rehabilitation is impossible at this point.

And he knows that if the same conditions exist as created these gangs in the first place, the gangs will rebuild and reorganize. These are damaged people. Their consciences have been seared and they are capable of anything. If they are allowed to regroup they will. And that is what is happening in Denver/Aurora. There are people there who benefit from the gangs and so these damaged people have the conditions to reorganize. It’s like cancer cells. If they’re roaming about individually it’s one thing, but if you get an immune system that lets them gather they will gather and grow. And Colorado is a broken immune system that NURTURES cancer.

I would really love for the whole country to hear what this man has to say because maybe it would cause us to think. There is a reason that the media and politicians feared the release of “The Sound of Freedom”. It’s because they benefit from the “unaccompanied minors” being sold for sex and organs, and from the new democrat voters that can outweigh the votes of true patriots here. This “problem” is allowed to continue because the people who could stop it actually benefit from it. Until the little people realize that their complacency and gullibility is precisely the cause of this problem, and they REPENT of that sin and turn from their wicked ways and pray for God’s forgiviness and deliverance... we have this problem because it is what this country wants. The self-righteous prigs WANT children sold for sex slaves and for body parts, and they WANT the country overrun by gangs.

When this country has had enough, they will vote for somebody who will end all that crap.

The difficulty we face is both the corrupt media, which he addresses in the Time article, and the fraudulent voting systems that allowed a 2-to-1 victory by Gonzales in Venezuela (as documented by the 80% of precinct tabulation sheets that the opposition party published online) into a win by communist Maduro. That was Smartmatic, which is suing Fox News, Newsmax, OANN (although I think they may have settled), Mike Lindell, Sidney Powell, and Rudy Guiliani - aided by funding from Reid Hoffman who also funded Nikki Haley.

The prosecutor who let Jeff Epstein off with a wrist-slap initially said that he had been told by the CIA that Epstein was their operative. The CIA benefits from the sex slave trade. John DeCamp wrote a book about how MK Ultra was used to recruit kids from Boys Town in Omaha, NE to be used for sex slavery in order to compromise legislators and other powerful political people. The stench that we’re smelling from many different sectors of human life all originate from the same place: Satan, who has ahold of all the levers of power right now. It’s all connected, it all stinks, and until EVERYONE - not just the “crazy conspiracy theorists” - connects the dots and vows to “Fight! Fight! Fight!” that Satanic cabal will destroy everything good and right that exists in this world.


36 posted on 08/31/2024 9:16:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Bon of Babble

Bukele has put “tons” of them in Salvador’s prisons. I have seen footage. Those that have invaded here obviously were escaping THAT fate THERE. Only a handful of them will be imprisoned here as part of our suicidal ‘tolerance’—and only after they commit some crime that would put anyone else in prison.If that.


37 posted on 08/31/2024 9:18:06 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: ConservativeMind

Exactly I said the same thing in my post a few minutes ago.Tucker did a good interview with Bukele a year or two ago.


38 posted on 08/31/2024 9:21:06 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: DIRTYSECRET
How they don’t riot is beyond me.
In the article I saw, it's the mindset of a no nonsense prison of 150-200 years ago.

Open air, very high walls, no cells, just stacks of slabs anchored to the walls for the inmates to stretch out on. The center jungle floor is the excercize area. I don't think there are prison personnel at ground level.

I suppose they can riot if they want, and kill each other.

39 posted on 08/31/2024 9:22:54 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: butterdezillion

Well written essay. Great job.

He’s aggressive. Proactive.

He’s not going to admit to Time or Tucker Carlson that when MS13 is released, they’re all heading to the US. He’s not going to admit that an ElSalvadorna “wink and nod” means, you’re free as long as you head to America.

On a side note, has he talked about his nationwide innitiative to convince the people of El Salvador to stay home, NOT immigrate to America, because it’s gonna get better?

Or has he quietly adopted the Mexican economy? Let them leave. Let them give birth to an instant colorized. Let them get on the welfare train and send US dollars back home…the #2 economic money maker in Mexico. Get a few cash jobs in America and western Union some money back home.


40 posted on 08/31/2024 9:25:05 AM PDT by qaz123
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