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Is coin mining a necesssary feature of Bitcoin?
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@gungasnake/bitcoin-do-you-need-coin-mining-or-would-a-simple-lottery-suffice ^

Posted on 08/17/2024 10:25:33 AM PDT by ganeemead

The coin mining feature of crypto currencies, particularly bitcoin, is basically hare brained and could be gotten rid of.


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To: 9YearLurker

I stand corrected.


21 posted on 08/17/2024 11:57:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: ganeemead

I don’t know jack about Bitcoin but I have been able to take advantage of it by swing trading options in MSTR. If you dont like options the stock is now affordable since it split. They have added a liquid ETF called MSTX. It comes with a warning sign on Schwab not meant for overnight holding.
There are other things you can traded related to Bitcoin but MSTR has been working well for me.


22 posted on 08/17/2024 12:03:56 PM PDT by RummyChick ( )
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To: 9YearLurker; DesertRhino

“they” don’t limit anything.

learn economics idjt


23 posted on 08/17/2024 12:12:31 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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To: Western Patriot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_stake


24 posted on 08/17/2024 12:35:44 PM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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To: A strike

Catch up, pal. The federal government has been strangling our energy sources via regulation.

Jeesh!


25 posted on 08/17/2024 12:58:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

no Schiff Sherlock, but “they” bitcoin miners have not .

Sheesh !


26 posted on 08/17/2024 1:08:51 PM PDT by A strike ("Rise Peter, kill and eat.")
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To: ganeemead

You’re wrong and silly, but I won’t argue it with you. The great thing about cryptocurrency is that literally anyone can make up their own, even with the most minimal technical skills. That’s why there are tens of thousands of them. So since you are so smart, just create your new great coin fixing such supposed deficiencies and the world will come rushing to support it.


27 posted on 08/17/2024 3:03:46 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: aquila48
"But that is the main reason why bitcoin will never be a real life currency."

And yet, it is, as the Chinese preferred way of off-shoring.

"Today, hardly anyone uses bitcoins to buy stuff."

No, just no, like hell no. Ransomware demands, stolen database transfers, PLA drug manufacturers, arms, yachts, cars, people, that list is endless.

28 posted on 08/17/2024 3:19:40 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: DesertRhino
"...fruitcake..."

You know perfectly well that the first time you ever experience a brownout due to those wankers doing their coin mining thing you'll be squealing just like a little pig...

29 posted on 08/17/2024 4:09:52 PM PDT by ganeemead (everything )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“...Bitcoin mining involves using computer technology to solve different mathematical problems. ,,”

Are these useful problems which needed to be solved, or just some busy work like spinning a Tibetan prayer wheel?


30 posted on 08/17/2024 4:53:19 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: StAnDeliver

“”No, just no, like hell no. Ransomware demands, stolen database transfers, PLA drug manufacturers, arms, yachts, cars, people, that list is endless.”

Compared to how many people use dollars, that list is infinitesimal.

Normal humans don’t use bitcoin to buy stuff. Not only that but one of the original selling points of Bitcoin was that the transaction would be settled in seconds and would be free. Well it’s not free and it can take hours and even a day to get the transaction processed. With Zelle I can truly get the transaction in seconds and for free.

So yes, the users of bitcoins are the ones avoiding the revenuer or the sheriff... and the collectors.


31 posted on 08/17/2024 7:49:38 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48
Re: "With Zelle I can truly get the transaction in seconds and for free."

My bank also offers Zelle for free (in the USA), but I have never needed to use it.

Zelle is owned by seven major USA Banks.

More than 80% of USA bank accounts can connect to Zelle.

The problem with Bitcoin is that no one knows how many are still active and have not been lost.

If you do not know the number of Bitcoins in circulation, how can you ever create a stable value?

I am also thinking that quantum computers will be able to test millions of Bitcoin passwords per minute and locate all the dormant accounts, thus destroying the current price.

32 posted on 08/18/2024 1:44:14 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: aquila48
"Compared to how many people use dollars, that list is infinitesimal."

You're making a fallacy sui generis.

$USD in circ is $2.4T.

The market cap on BTC, as measured in $USD, is almost exactly half that amount.

BTC is not a preferred currency in the US because we are the home of the Dollar.

But an 6-bedroom apartment in Beijing's CBD? Or a 7-bedroom mansion in HK's Mt. Nicholson? Or an iron-front faced heritage house in Singapore's Emerald Hill? Bought with BTC, or BTC converted into anything but $USD.

33 posted on 08/18/2024 12:13:44 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: StAnDeliver

“You’re making a fallacy sui generis.”

And your fallacy is using exceptions as the rule

$2.4T is the currency in circulation. Most of the transactions are no longer done with cash but with credit and debit cards and they’re about $100 trillion a year.

Transaction done with Bitcoins to actually buy stuff is a tiny , tiny fraction of that, and yes most of it is done in countries where their currency is not trusted or to avoid the law, but even that is a tiny amount.

Most of the activity with Bitcoins is speculative - buying and selling it for currencies to profit from its movement.

By the way, I’m not at all against Bitcoin, in fact I own some miners, but I very much question that it will ever become a true currency used for everyday commerce. The main reason is its finite amount. Because of that it tends to be deflationary, hence people are more likely to hoard it than to spend it.

If the total amount were allowed to increase by 3-4% a year, as Milton Friedman proposed, then it would have a greater chance of being more widely used.


34 posted on 08/18/2024 7:22:52 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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