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2025 Chevrolet Silverado EV
Car and Driver ^ | no date given | DAVID GLUCKMAN

Posted on 08/16/2024 10:17:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right

MSRP $70,000–$100,000

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: chevrolet; chevy; ev; firetraps; generalmotors; gm; governmentmotors; redchina; silverado; trucks
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To: CatOwner

My 2019 Sante Fe is 3920 pounds. This dang truck is more than twice that!


21 posted on 08/17/2024 1:12:38 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Leaning Right

Gawd, it’s ugly and with a tiny bed too... No Sale!


22 posted on 08/17/2024 1:13:41 AM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Reno89519

8,800 pounds? Ok, so you would need a 5-ton floor jack and super heavy duty jack stands to get underneath/change a tire yourself. There’s another $1,000 investment, as the jack will set you back about $750 by itself.

Also, that much weight will shred those tires out in about 6 months I bet.


23 posted on 08/17/2024 1:14:13 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: Leaning Right
I have a bit more respect for Ford, as I think their quality control is a little better than that of GM.

You just made me laugh right there... Neither one of them are worth a damn when it come to QC these days.

24 posted on 08/17/2024 1:18:20 AM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Bullish

> Neither one of them are worth a damn when it come to QC these days. <

Yes, I won’t argue against that. GM is a quality control mess. Ford is only slightly ahead of them, so little that it doesn’t really matter.

I have great respect for Toyota. But I’ve been reading that they’re starting have quality control issues. Maybe I’ll just have to build my next car from scratch. 🙂

After all, that’s what Johnny Cash did.

https://youtu.be/060A15ELz00?si=OFb3AEQ_B6a5T1YH


25 posted on 08/17/2024 1:25:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: GenXPolymath

The steam turbine dates from the 1880s, and we wouldn’t have AC power without it. Still lots of cargo ships in service that are powered by steam turbines too. And of course, nuclear vessels use them.


26 posted on 08/17/2024 2:01:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: CatOwner
I have to wonder if that extra weight wears out tires quicker.

Yes, and it wears out the roads quicker too.

27 posted on 08/17/2024 2:09:26 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: Reno89519

My 19 RST was 54k sticker. Add in the new cam, lifters and other components before tuning it brings my total cost to almost 63k.
The fact that they haven’t recalled the 5.3 for its afm lifter issues says a lot. As a former gym family member, I’m done. My next vehicle will most likely be a Toyota.


28 posted on 08/17/2024 2:30:35 AM PDT by TermLimits4All ("If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.")
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To: GenXPolymath

100% of them have trailer hitches I notice. I wonder what percentage have ever pulled a trailer?


29 posted on 08/17/2024 2:53:44 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Olog-hai

Tesla was a genius his AC polyphase fundamentally changed the world. The first power turbines were hydro metallurgy wasn’t up to steam quite yet. Nuclear power needs to switch to supercritical co2 turbines for gen 4 high temp reactors. Co2 doesn’t react with molten salts nor molten sodium both of which are needed for fast spectrum reactors. Plus co2 being supercritical has lower compression requirements making a 50% cycle possible with out having to go to 1000+c like supercritical steam 600C works for co2. Plus the outlet temp is still above 100C so you can either run a organic bottoming cycle , or desalination plus district heating/cooling. Nuclear will be the last use of pure steam turbjnes. Combined cycle gas turbines are much more efficient but the bottoming cycle is either pure steam or organic fluid. So I guess combined cycle could also be the last of the steam turbines. Geothermal is going co2 vs steam it’s a better heat fluid and doesn’t leach minerals and radon out of granite rocks like hot water does.


30 posted on 08/17/2024 3:03:13 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
" no maintenance on the EV’s"

No maintenance? Ha, ha, ha! Just replacing the tires three times as often, and replacing the $30,000 battery pack, ball joints, springs, brakes, etc. due to the 8000 pound weight.

31 posted on 08/17/2024 3:17:03 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Freud: projection is a defense mechanism of those struggling with inferiority complexes)
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To: Yardstick

The hitch is there no ball in it usually. If the receiver hitch is still pristine with not wear from putting in the ball that’s a dead gateway for grocery getters. There are three types of truckbros in the North Texas burbs. The dodge ram diesel bros who put pipes and drive around blowing smoke and noise everywhere with ridiculous 20 inch rims and jacked up trucks with street rubber on them they couldn’t go off-road of the wanted too those fragile rims would crack. The second is the ultra premium platinum edition truckbros they are the king ranch or whatever edition all leather never had a scratched bed. The third is the 4 door jacked up Jeep mafia with all the ridiculous stickers and wraps or rhino lining paint jobs.

I.hang out at a huge sports bar where the girls are in tbacks and bras by 530 the lot is packed with perfectly clean jacked up trucks all backed in and middle aged office workers swarming for happy hour and mostly naked girls. It’s all collared shirts and polos not work cloths. Those guys bring their actual work trucks or vans at lunch time with tools and ladders and stuff. Those guys are in shirts with their names on them or painters smoks. They all clear out by 130 back to the job site none of those trucks have leather seats or wood grain anything. White truck or van old and banged up to crap.

I bring my F250 PS diesel right from Midland oil patch covered in red west Texas dirt from time to time as it’s on my way home well 40 min in the Midland direction vs home so it’s a pit stop. My truck only does truck things that’s its purpose I have cars and SUV for city stuff. The Expedition twin turbo get the nod if 4 or more people need to be taken to a night out. Otherwise it’s the Model 3 or Volvo. The truck gets put up until it’s needed for trips to a rig or field site.


32 posted on 08/17/2024 3:19:26 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Around here the style is to have a dropping hitch in the receiver and a ball on the hitch. And of course all of it pristine. My sense is a truck with no hitch would be considered sort of neutered.


33 posted on 08/17/2024 3:34:38 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: CatOwner

EVs have special tires for exactly that reason. Yet another hidden cost associated with “saving” the planet.


34 posted on 08/17/2024 3:58:17 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!)
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To: roving

I have a 97 Chevy 1500 that has been used and abused and still fired up every time we need it.
There will be no 20 year old EVs


35 posted on 08/17/2024 4:04:03 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Reno89519

It cannot be that energy efficient either.
It cost a lot of energy hauling additional two tones around.
Plus the wear and tear of the road!


36 posted on 08/17/2024 4:05:01 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: GenXPolymath

Used to be website, Mike Brown Solutions sold small steam engines and plans for power systems. The site is gone but you stll see a few sites that discuss his steam plants.


37 posted on 08/17/2024 4:22:26 AM PDT by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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To: Leaning Right

The C and D write up makes the ridiculous EV truck sound neeto keeno.


38 posted on 08/17/2024 4:32:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: blitz128

“There will be no 20 year old EVs

A friend has a newer model but probably five-year-old Mustang. It took Ford eight weeks to send his mechanic a new control computer. The thing that will prevent any modern car from being here twenty years from now is the electronics. The driver of a rollback taking my 1952 Pontiac home showed me photos of his “new” Mercedes. It was twelve years old, and he had taken it and its elderly owner to the dealership to get it fixed. It had twenty thousand miles and looked like a million dollars. The dealership wanted $28000 to make it run. On the way home she signed over the title to the rollback’s driver. He said, “How can I fix it?” I said, “Pay Mercedes $28,000.”

The nearby pick and pull has a double row of top-of-the-line luxury cars. It looks like a high-end dealership. I asked why they there and the guy said, “That one needs at least one computer but they’re not available. A used one can run three grand and there’s no guarantee. If it doesn’t work, you’re out the money. Then, it might say that the problem is really in this other computer. That one needs a new transmission which is fifteen grand, and the next one needs an engine...a used one is fifteen grand. The owners said, “F*&k this, and there they sit.”


39 posted on 08/17/2024 4:45:57 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Leaning Right

Ridiculous.


40 posted on 08/17/2024 4:46:40 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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