Posted on 08/13/2024 8:33:58 PM PDT by Jonty30
It is my understanding that the origin is military. As a tactic to get a quick shot that is reasonably accurate but you are giving up points in accuracy for expediency reasons.
The best my internet searching has found is that it was popularized by Hollywood, then the gang culture, but there is no real and definitive origin given
It's origin is not gang, because there have been movies in the 1960's that made use of the side grip when firing off a revolver or semi-automatic pistols.
It may not have been taught as an approved military tactic, but lots of tactics are not military approved but it somehow filters down to the soldiers anyway.
Is there a reliable site that can explain in definitive fashion the origin of the side grip?
Single Action Shooters Society.
I've see shooters get off six shots from the hip and hit their targets so fast it was hard to hear the individual shots.
Pants on the ground, and rounds jammed in the action from reducing the feature of a semi-auto pistol, whose reloading mechanism is powered by the recoil with weapon properly restrained and not “limp wristed” one hand shooting— or sideways shooting. Sideways results in the muzzle traveling horizonally between shots, thus very poor aim is a result.
One never sees professional shooters on a range in competition use a sideways hold for firing. The recoil is reduced and chambering the next round is hindered. IOW it would cost time in the shooting to clear a jam and/or load a new magazine to continue. And another IOW—it’s really stupid. Only possible use would be a slight cant (called “the half homie” held in the weaker shooting hand.
Regards,
Movies make it seem amateurish but when you watch interviews with former SpecOp's operators, they generally mimic a side hold when describing situations they were in.
Better yet backwards
It’s stupid movie and video nonsense like baggy pants and Ebonics
Read accounts from all major law abiding shooters from history
Don’t panic shoot
Aim or point well like Hickock if you have that talent
Be aware so you’re prepared to shoot first or respond quickly and deadly
Shoot for center mass not the head like Hollywood And don’t be above shooting his horse out from under him or her in their day
But most of all be as calm as you can and hope the other guy isn’t
You pull your gun in a threat you have to make a quick decision whether or not to kill
It seems to me that it is used to counter misses from heavy squeeze trigger pull.
A heavy squeeze with a standard pull will cause the wrist to twist and because a body is not as wide as is tall,
just slight twist will cause a miss.
Hold it gangsta, and a heavy squeeze will just hit high.
Perhaps the earliest use on film of the so-called sideways grip, although it wasn’t referred to as the gangster grip until several decades later, was in the 1956 western movie, The Fastest Gun Alive. In it, in order to impress the local townsfolk of his speed and skill, star Glenn Ford quickly swipes his Colt across his cartridge belt, using this sideways hold, cocking the hammer against the belt as he makes his draw and fires his Colt. – Courtesy MGM –
Show me ANY firearms training regimen which teaches that.
I call it “Full Homey.”
As a firearms instructor, this is a typical and exercised alternative way to aim and fire your pistol in low light or anytime you can't for whatever reasons use the regular sights. It won't work at long distances with any accuracy, but within 21 feet, and especially closer, is will keep you on target.
Next time you are at the range, try it. Also, make sure you try shooting single-handed with both your strong (dominant) and weak hands.
When I've designed stages for USPSA competition, it is also interesting to see how many people struggle when forced to shoot with their non-dominant weak hand.
This grip has arisen several times in media, but the story I was told in Hollywood in the 90s about the rise of the grip at that time was that a film producer who was going to shoot a gangster film went to the range to see how guns were shot. They encountered an IPSC shooter who was partially disabled and was not able to hold their pistol vertically and was therefore shooting with the pistol at a horizontal angle. The producer thought that was cool and put it in that movie and others.
That’s because with modern rifle optics, they can and do rotate the weapon to switch to different sight sets or to clear a field of vision or inspect the weapon.
The reason for the side grip is because that’s how it comes out of the box.
Gangs haven’t figured that out yet.
🤣🤣🤣 Folks, we have an early thread-winner.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.