Posted on 08/04/2024 6:20:02 PM PDT by vespa300
Article XIV — The Lord's Day We believe the Lord's Day is divinely ordained for private and public worship, for rest from unnecessary work, and should be devoted to spiritual improvement, Christian fellowship and service. It is commemorative of our Lord's resurrection and is an emblem of our eternal rest. It is essential to the permanence and growth of the Christian Church, and important to the welfare of the civil community.
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I mean looks like this great Protestant church hasn't tossed out the weekly holy day using weak shallow theology that renders the 4th commandment invalid. They may have the wrong day but at least they haven't tossed the baby out with the bathwater as the evangelicals of today have. Sunday isn't kept by today's evangelicals because they know it's not taught in the Bible.so they have to get rid of the whole "law"....Bizarre if you ask me. Adventists and Methodists just seem to differ on a day. Evangelicals threw it all out, the whole enchilada.
I commend them for that. Unfortunately, Sunday worship carries the authority of the Papacy. I pray that they realize this before it’s too late.
Is that like an essential worker?
Yeah, I do too. I commend any Christian today who has the commitment and dedication to keep Sunday as the Lord’s day. It’s a rare thing. The evangelicals of today with their dispensationalism have become antinomian when it comes to the 4th commandment.
I’m at a point now in this debate where my simple question is.....forget Seventh day or first day.....how come you don’t keep any day as the Lord’s day?
You can’t find hardly any who keep Sunday much less the Sabbath. and look at society and families and crime and divorces and disfunction and kids. Gee.....ya think God knew what he was doing when he said to “remember”to come apart each week before you fall apart.
Society is falling apart because it’s forgot what God said to remember. But they managed to talk themselves out of even Sunday! Rome hasn’t though...her catechism hasn’t changed and she will never change and she bides her time......she knows sooner or later...they are all coming back to her......crawling. And then she will have what she lost....her power back and she hates the seventh day Sabbath. It exposes her. The seventh day Sabbath rebukes evolution...and the counterfeit religious power. God kills two birds with one stone......the seventh day Sabbath.
:)...funny. :)
That’s why I joined the Outdoor Methodists years ago...huntin’, fishin, cyclin’, paddlin’ etc on Sunday mornings, right out in nature that God created for us to enjoy.
Are you going post every two days about other Christian denominations? Buzz off. I’m not sticking up for the UMC - they can pound sand but so can you.
Yes, there is not a long list of dos and don’t on how to keep the Sabbath. The Pharisees had a list like that. They made it a burden. Jesus restored it to it’s proper place. He healed on the Sabbath and showed it’s true meaning. He went to church on the Sabbath, he performed miracles on the Sabbath and he said he was Lord of the Sabbath.
And this is very same Jesus in the Old Testament who calls the seventh day sabbath “MY HOLY DAY”.....Jesus is the Lord so that makes the sabbath the Lord’s day. John sees not only the Lord’s day in Revelation..well after Jesus has gone back to heaven...he also sees the Ten commandments in Revelation. Revelation 11:19.....thunder, lightning, the “tabernacle of the Testimony”......that’s the Ten Commandments because that’s the law we are judged by. In the most holy place, blood sprinkled over the mercy seat......in heaven we see a great judgement scene and the 10 commandments.
I have the blood....I’m not bringing my commandment keeping. I’m bringing the blood. And I’m accounted as if I never broke the sabbath, as if I kept it perfectly! Just as Jesus did and kept all the commandments.
What a Savior!......I can now delight in his moral law...just as David did.
If you get a blessing from being in nature on the Sabbath......as I do.......amen!
We do see some guidance on the keeping the Sabbath....the commandment and of course.....Isaiah 58......the only Bible Jesus ever had and so I don’t toss that either and I know the difference between Mosaic laws written in a book by Moses...and the moral law written and spoken by God in stone......and seen by John in heaven in the temple..where the judgement takes place.
Isaiah 58:
Isaiah 58:13-14
New King James Version
13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
14 Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord;
And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth,
And feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father.
The mouth of the Lord has spoken.
It’s good stuff.....you should read it and pray about it.
I disaffiliated immediately after this year’s General Conference. Can’t be bothered with anything the UMC has to say at this point.
>>>I disaffiliated immediately after this year’s General Conference. Can’t be bothered with anything the UMC has to say at this point.>>>.
But I’m sure it wasn’t because of their position on the Lord’s day. I mean that has been their position since Wesley I believe. It’s a pretty good position with the exception of the wrong day. Right way but wrong day kind of thing.
I believe God honored the protestants who kept Sunday as the Lord’s day. They were going by the light they had for over 1000 years. The Sabbath breach is an end time repair. We read that in Isaiah 53 and Jesus sees the Sabbath in Matthew 24 at the end of time. It’s going to the dividing issue in the end because Anti Christ was prophecied in Daniel to be a great monolithic religious organzation who among other things...claiming to be God on earth, forgiving sins, etc....she “attempted to change set times and law”..Daniel 7:25.
AS the world soon implodes..everyone is going to run for safety. After 9/11 the churches were packed. When the plane is going down.....everyone prays. Those days are coming and she bides her time.....she can see what is coming..and he sits on the city of 7 hills.....Rome.
No, it is up to your conscience what unnecessary work is. I have heard Lord’s Day work as works of necessity or of mercy. How that is defined is between you and the Holy Spirit.
—> have become antinomian
No, necronmian.
“ For through the Law I died to the Law, that I might live to God.”
- Apostle Paul
Today, we hiked, picked blueberries, and thanked God for the day. We watched another episode of “The Chosen” this evening as well. There are some very minor problems I have with the series and I point them out to my family when they occur, over all very good.
Forgot to add that yes, we usually attend services but it was the first gorgeous day in a week so we took advantage of it. The days are waning up here in tue Alaska heartland.
The Global Methodist Church retains the same Methodist Articles of Religion that the UMC keeps on paper, if your disaffiliation led you to them rather than unaffiliation or any other affiliation. It’s part of our heritage from John Wesley and the Church of England.
You paint with way too broad of a brush!
Your own false prophetess Ellen G white changed her mind several times on the matter of Sunday, the Lord’s day.
Here are her instructions in “Testimonies to the Church,” Volume IX, Number 37, published in 1909. It is a square back down from all she had published before. It avoids all possibility of persecution for Sunday work. She says,
“The light given me by the Lord at a time when we were expecting just such a crisis as you seem to be approaching was that when the people were moved by a power from beneath to enforce Sunday observance, Seventh-Day Adventists were to show their wisdom by refraining from their ordinary work on that day, devoting it to missionary effort.”
Page 232:
“Give them no occasion to call you lawbreakers. It will be very easy to avoid that difficulty. Give Sunday to the Lord as a day for doing missionary work.”
Page 238: “At one time, those in charge of our school at Avondale [Australia] inquired of me, saying, “What shall we do? The officers of the law have been commissioned to arrest those working on Sunday.’ I replied, ‘It will be very easy to avoid that difficulty. Give Sunday to the Lord as a day for doing missionary work. Take the students out to hold meetings in different places, and to do medical missionary work. They will find the people at home, and will have a splendid opportunity to present the truth. This way of spending Sunday is always acceptable to the Lord.’”
So your Ellen directs her people to keep Sunday exactly as all conscientious Sunday observers do; that is, in holding religious meetings and doing religious work!
“They are to refrain from their ordinary work on that day. Give Sunday to the Lord as a day of doing missionary work. This way of spending Sunday is always acceptable to the Lord.”
Furthermore, the Early Christians all worshipped the Lord God Jesus on the first day of the week, which is why it is called Domini or comanche in Latin based languages.
Chapter fourteen of the “Teaching of the Apostles” says: “But every Lord’s Day do ye gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving,” etc. This testimony is clear and decisive that the Lord’s Day was the established day of worship, at that early day.. written 180 AD
Justin Martyr writing in 140 AD says about the first day of the week; “And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read”
Notice that he says that, “On the day called Sunday, all who live in the cities or in the country gather together to one place,” etc. “But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly.” This practice was general among all Christians as far as he had travelled, and he was an itinerant preacher. Hence this is positive proof that Sunday-keeping was general in the Christian Church at that early date. Justin does not state simply his opinion, but a fact then existing, viz., that all Christians “whether in cities or country””in all nations” held their assemblies on Sunday.
The Early Christians in fact all Christians worshipped on the first day, the day the Lord rose from the dead.
It was only the modernist false prophetess Ellen whose teachings you hold as equal to Scripture, that disagreed, 1800 years later
Furthermore, the Early Christians all worshipped the Lord God Jesus on the first day of the week, which is why it is called Domini or comanche in Latin based languages.
Chapter fourteen of the “Teaching of the Apostles” says: “But every Lord’s Day do ye gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving,” etc. This testimony is clear and decisive that the Lord’s Day was the established day of worship, at that early day.. written 180 AD
Justin Martyr writing in 140 AD says about the first day of the week; “And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read”
Notice that he says that, “On the day called Sunday, all who live in the cities or in the country gather together to one place,” etc. “But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly.” This practice was general among all Christians as far as he had travelled, and he was an itinerant preacher. Hence this is positive proof that Sunday-keeping was general in the Christian Church at that early date. Justin does not state simply his opinion, but a fact then existing, viz., that all Christians “whether in cities or country””in all nations” held their assemblies on Sunday.
The Early Christians in fact all Christians worshipped on the first day, the day the Lord rose from the dead.
It was only the modernist false prophetess Ellen whose teachings you hold as equal to Scripture, that disagreed, 1800 years later
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