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The Race for Next Generation Submarines - Ageing Fleets, Innovation, & Undersea Dominance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPd_AL004mE ^ | 8/4/2024 | Perun

Posted on 08/04/2024 11:56:45 AM PDT by Chode

Nuclear powered submarines are often among the most complex and expensive systems ever fielded by any military. However, for decades, they (and less expensive conventionally powered designs) have been considered a cornerstone of naval power by many navies because of the unique capabilities they offer.

With new anti-submarine threats emerging, from new sensors to unmanned systems, many nations are now preparing to design and produce a new generation of submarines to answer those threats, leverage new technologies, and keep up with international competitors.

Today, we take a look at that emerging development and construction race.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
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1 posted on 08/04/2024 11:56:45 AM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode

later


2 posted on 08/04/2024 12:19:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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To: Chode

AI generated high school report. Yawn…..


3 posted on 08/04/2024 12:21:35 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Chode

Go to the people who make them.....Electric Boat in Groton CT. My grandson is an Engineer at EB.


4 posted on 08/04/2024 12:33:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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In 2023 of the Biden/Harris admin, the Pentagon’s military payroll was $184 billion, which is the second largest category of spending for the Department of Defense (DoD)......covers pay and retirement benefits for service members.

The Pentagon’s proposed 2025 budget includes an $8.9 billion increase to $181.9 billion payroll for military personnel, despite an expected decrease in active end force.

The budget also includes a 4.5% pay raise for service members and a 2% pay raise for civilian employees.

Last year in the Biden/Harris admin, the Pentagon couldn’t properly account for a whopping 61% of its total $3.5 trillion in assets. That figure increased this year, with the department insufficiently documenting 63% of its now $3.8 trillion in assets.

Military contractors possess many of these assets, but to an extent unbeknownst to the Pentagon ........ and to Biden/Harris.


5 posted on 08/04/2024 12:36:42 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray : Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: Sacajaweau

Tremendous respect for your grandson and those who design our boats. The problem lies with those who craft the requirements. At this point in time we still have the best there is for the mission statements. The AIP boats are a formidable lower cost implementation. 5-10 years from now, if we don’t execute a serious cranial rectal extraction that may not be the case.

We need creativity innovation and some serious soul searching to build for the future.


6 posted on 08/04/2024 12:39:17 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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I just happened to find my SSBN 599 piping manual that I used to qualify on my first boat, while cleaning out my basement. I was surprised to notice that it wasn’t classified.


7 posted on 08/04/2024 12:41:57 PM PDT by MNnice
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I’m surprised that technology hasn’t found a way to see through water to spot any submarine anywhere and at any depth.


8 posted on 08/04/2024 12:49:56 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Biden's Given His Farewell Address, So When Is He Leaving?)
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To: Chode
They're simply trying to CREATE a reason to make the LOW common sense American HAVE a REASON to want to SPEND tax dollars to DO THIS!


9 posted on 08/04/2024 12:53:56 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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According to Naval historian Gary E. Weir, “In all, U.S. submarines destroyed 1,314 enemy warships in the Pacific, representing 55% of all Axis power warships lost and a total of 5.3 million tons of shipping.”

I was on a submarine myself for a few years. They have become even more deadly.

10 posted on 08/04/2024 1:14:45 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Reno89519

The Spy Who Loved Me comes to mind. Q’s idea.

https://youtu.be/JtKoD0564N8?si=GGoBtzYjlznOiahp&t=49


11 posted on 08/04/2024 1:30:05 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
The argument in favor of nuclear versus AIP subs goes to the heart of what a submarine is meant to do. Subs with AIP propulsion have inherent range and speed limitations that make them most suitable to be "ambush predators" in constricted waters but not wide-ranging hunters in the way that America's nuclear subs are and must be.

Nevertheless, if the US Navy can get its ship design and building problems resolved, a fleet of AIP subs could be a useful supplement to our current inventory of nuclear subs. I hope that the USN and the Naval War College are gaming out that possibility.

In addition, there is the potential for so-called "cold fusion" technology to upend all such calculations. It may one day be possible to produce electric power at high density without a nuclear reactor or even a diesel or turbine engine. The USN is known to be monitoring cold fusion developments with interest in case someone figures out how to take it from lab curiosity to a useful device.

12 posted on 08/04/2024 3:59:12 PM PDT by Rockingham
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“I just happened to find my SSBN 599 piping manual that I used to qualify on my first boat, while cleaning out my basement. I was surprised to notice that it wasn’t classified.”

We were told NOT to take anything off the boat. Anything related to the aft engineering spaces was restricted information.


13 posted on 08/04/2024 7:27:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Chode

Are we building racing subs yet?


14 posted on 08/04/2024 9:28:21 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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15 posted on 08/04/2024 10:39:03 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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