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Cars Are Now Rolling Computers, So How Long Will They Get Updates? Automakers Can’t Say
Spotify ^ | 25 July 2024 | AArian Marshall

Posted on 07/27/2024 12:16:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Phones are supported well beyond their average ownership lifetime. In stark contrast, automakers are struggling to work out how long their “smartphones on wheels” can be kept on the road.

In 2022, the automaker told drivers of the affected cars, some only three years old, that a technical solution was delayed by the pandemic. Now, more than two years later, those drivers still don’t have access to telematics services.

A recent report found that cars and trucks just reached a new record average age of 12.6 years, up two months from 2023.

“Whatever anybody is saying right now, it will really have to be proven out in time,” says Stacey Higginbotham, a policy fellow at Consumer Reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at open.spotify.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars; computers; expired; rollingcomputers; updating
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I knew a older guy, retired teacher, way back when.

He had, for decades, intentionally sought, bought, and stored new parts for old refigerators, Frigidaire handles, Kelvinator condensors, you name it. Converted his basement and had a simple catalog system. He was wealthy as all get out and worked for fun.

There will be a market within 10 years for new EEC's for 2000-2010s that will be a fortune to be had, due to market pressure by 2035 for ever-reducing numbers of ICE units. Cheaper than buying ICEs and storing them; and a much tighter market due to lack of inventory.

61 posted on 07/27/2024 4:16:02 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: Reno89519

Hi, have a 2018 RAV four that I bought new. I wish I had not bought the car because I traded in a Prius before the price of gas went up. I let a sleazy car salesman take advantage of me. 6 years later I’m still paying. And the Prius had a great GPS system. The RAV4 had a scout GPS system that you had to use your phone for. The sleazy car salesman got tired of seeing my face, trying to make the GPS system work and started hiding from me. I was hopping mad about it. About a year ago they discontinued this GPS system and now I have none and I can’t get the old one off my car. Very disappointed in Toyota.


62 posted on 07/27/2024 4:16:24 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: TexasGator

2005 4x4 with 5.3 and most of my driving is commuting in hill country, 40 miles one way and I’m in a hurry both ways.


63 posted on 07/27/2024 4:21:43 PM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I did repair a ‘66 VW Aluminum headed engine that spit out a plug one day on the way to work back in the day with a Helicoil [https://www.helicoil.in/] spark plug thread insert.

Worked fine. Shoulda come out of the Factory with same.


64 posted on 07/27/2024 4:22:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: TexasGator

—”An AC IS a heat pump!”

And so is your refrigerator, and it will move a bit of the heat into the conditioned space, unlike a traditional AC.


65 posted on 07/27/2024 4:22:40 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“It will take a generation to develop a good crop of heat pump techs.”

We have had 10 generations. The first heat pump patent was in 1834.


66 posted on 07/27/2024 4:24:12 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: maddog55

—” you bring your car in and we remove all computers. You’re left with a low tech fuel injected engine and a radio.”

You may want to have the EPA review your business plan before investing any money.


67 posted on 07/27/2024 4:26:10 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“And so is your refrigerator, “

First demonstrated in 1748!


68 posted on 07/27/2024 4:26:12 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Paladin2

That was typically due to running Champion plugs. They were 1/2 thread too long and so the carbon reamed out the threads. Champion would never fix the problem.


69 posted on 07/27/2024 4:27:06 PM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

EPA doesn’t make rules and regulations anymore and the ones they’ve enacted are slowly being challenged through lawsuits as are many of the 3 letter institutions. Only Congress can make laws.


70 posted on 07/27/2024 4:32:43 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

EPA doesn’t make rules and regulations anymore and the ones they’ve enacted are slowly being challenged through lawsuits as are many of the 3 letter institutions. Only Congress can make laws.


71 posted on 07/27/2024 4:34:50 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

just bought a 60’s car for this, among many similar concerns.

No gps
No tracking
No computers on board
No government surveillance devices
No apps required
No backup cam
No lane warning mirrors
No black box

Need a whole new engine? $6k and swap it myself.
It won’t go down in value compared to the functional obsolescence built into today’s vehicles and it’s a BLAST to drive.

Worth considering


72 posted on 07/27/2024 4:37:43 PM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: TexasGator

—”First demonstrated in 1748!”

I’m familiar with Gore and his house guest Willis Carrier who successfully commercialized the process...

Gore the patron saint of Florida:
https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/art/john-gorrie-statue

I was involved in a discussion on this topic and recalled European brewers that cooled beer for some types of fermentation. IIRC they used condensing steam?
An absorption refrigerator?

But could find nothing... do you have a link?

Thanx.


73 posted on 07/27/2024 4:42:49 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: TalBlack

—” and 5 thousand dollar headlights “

Some years back I spotted a friend in his beloved Caddy and a headlight was out.

He was aware of it and said they were about $2k EACH and was waiting to do the pair.
And save a bit?


74 posted on 07/27/2024 4:53:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: x

We made it past Y2K without Crowdstrike!

But the “BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH’ still lives.


75 posted on 07/27/2024 4:56:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The headlights on my 2005 Jeep Wrangler are the old fashioned round type, cheap to replace, and the taillights are like the common ones found on trailers, about $40 each. I’m driving it until I croak.


76 posted on 07/27/2024 5:03:01 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: TexasGator

Interesting, thanks...

With 410 already being banned next year it will not make much difference.


77 posted on 07/27/2024 5:04:10 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: maddog55

—”Only Congress can make laws.”

If only that were so!
But we can dream.


78 posted on 07/27/2024 5:10:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

wiki heat pump


79 posted on 07/27/2024 5:12:20 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Z28.310

—” $6k and swap it myself.”

I do not mind the engine work... but the floorplan, frame undercarriage work, for me those days are gone.


80 posted on 07/27/2024 5:13:48 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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