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China's SpaceX Copy Destroyed in Bizarre Test Failure - Booster Static Fire Becomes Flight Test
YouTube ^ | 6/30/2024 | Scott Manley

Posted on 07/02/2024 2:30:30 AM PDT by Paul R.

In China Space Pioneer was performing a static fire test of the Booster for their Tianlong 3 rocket, a design which is a close copy of SpaceX's Falcon 9. Due to an engineering failure the rocket broke free of the test stand, flew under power for about 30 seconds before crashing back to Earth in a spectacular fireball.

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To: Brooklyn Attitude

That’s y its a space ex copy.
They just couldn’t steal all the data.


21 posted on 07/02/2024 5:54:25 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Paul R.
Harbor Freight Rocket Kit!!

Compare to SpaceX Rocket.. 🙄😁

22 posted on 07/02/2024 5:54:46 AM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: Paul R.

“a close copy of SpaceX’s Falcon 9”

I bet. No one is better at corporate espionage and theft than the ChiComs.


23 posted on 07/02/2024 6:04:27 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Paul R.

I think the re-entry move was a bit premature.


24 posted on 07/02/2024 6:22:45 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: butlerweave

EVER STAND NEAR A TOP FUEL DRAGSTER WHEN IT IS FIRED AFTER A NEW ENGINE IS INSTALLED???

PLENTY OF HORSEPOWER-—BUT STAYS IN PLACE WHILE BEING TEST FIRED.

THEN-—CAN GO OUT & DO A STANDING START RUN AT 3.66 SECONDS & 337 MPH in 1000 feet of track.


25 posted on 07/02/2024 6:59:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: BobL

“And PLENTY of China-born people working in corporate America, including very sensitive positions (yes, many are citizens now, but does anyone think that affects their loyalties?).”

There are certain government restrictions on what projects foreign nationals can work on, but I don’t think they apply to naturalized citizens. I’ve known some that eventually got jobs in China and moved back.


26 posted on 07/02/2024 8:18:27 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (A vote for Biden in 2024 is a vote for President Kamala Harris in 2025.)
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To: Paul R.

https://youtu.be/SFEewD4EVwU?si=5goERV5jE3LhNbI4


27 posted on 07/02/2024 8:27:41 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: DAC21
Static tests are normally horizontal, no?

No, particularly with liquid rocket engines.

Here's a Falcon-9 static test fire:


28 posted on 07/02/2024 8:31:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: butlerweave

“good news, minister! Several new organs have suddenly become available!”


29 posted on 07/02/2024 8:37:05 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Candor7

Many more details for the excellent China Observer site.

Farcical China’s Rocket Launch Fails: Held by Bolts on a Makeshift Scaffold. Far Too Rudimentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvCmuHnnjaw


30 posted on 07/02/2024 9:55:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: NorthMountain

Image: note the concrete pad, the steel hold down cables, and the weight at the top. Items the Pioneer rocket copy lacked.

Rocket crash 1 km from high speed rail line, 1.5km from a city, just a common rocket test.

Chinese jargon translated:
“Early planning” means ‘getting ready to plagiarize’;
“Years of dedication” means ‘waiting for open source’;
“Overtaking on a curve” means ‘the open source opportunity has arrived’;
“Far ahead” means ‘successful plagiarism’;
“Bottlenecked” means ‘a failed attempt at copying’.

Example:
After years of ‘early planning’ and ‘years of dedication’, Pioneer claims it wants to surpass Space X which clearly marks their attempt at ‘overtaking on a curve’ on their way to ‘far ahead’, however their safety measures are so haphazard that they haven’t even done the fundamental groundwork as a result the rush to overtake has led to this unexpected first flight on June 11th. Clearly Pioneer has been ‘bottlenecked’.


31 posted on 07/02/2024 10:26:08 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: NorthMountain

that is a test done at spacex’s mcgragor tx facility.


32 posted on 07/02/2024 11:02:39 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46; PIF

Yeah ... The ChiComs forgot to copy a few things.


33 posted on 07/02/2024 11:37:35 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Yes they did.... BOOM goes the chiCom rocket!!


34 posted on 07/02/2024 1:33:29 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: GranTorino

Could somebody at SpaceX have suspected IP theft, and left booby-trapped plans in place of the real ones?


35 posted on 07/02/2024 6:50:42 PM PDT by powerset
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To: CopperTop

I was thinking more like a Mad Magazine rocket kit...
Anyone remember that one?


36 posted on 07/02/2024 8:03:49 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: PIF

That rocket.....a premature ejaculaunch.

And they had the igniters turned OFF.

Who was the culprit?


37 posted on 07/03/2024 2:37:14 PM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Candor7

Culprit? They were using a Chinese Si-fi comedy cartoon for their methodology. Safety be dammed.


38 posted on 07/03/2024 4:22:45 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

39 posted on 07/04/2024 4:48:10 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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