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Was PI Just Hacked? STRING THEORY Scientists ‘STUMBLE UPON’ Whole New Way to Represent Famously Irrational Number
The Debrief ^ | June 26, 2024 | Christopher Plain

Posted on 06/26/2024 5:44:58 AM PDT by Red Badger

String theory scientists studying the behavior of high energy particles say they have stumbled upon a mathematical “hack” that revealed a whole new way to represent the irrational number Pi. While the research is purely theoretical, the duo behind the Pi hack says this kind of theoretical work holds rewarding potential.

The researchers also believe their work could lead to a number of potential breakthroughs in the future, similar to how theoretical breakthroughs made by physicists nearly a hundred years ago resulted in technological advancements decades later.

AFTER 4,000 YEARS, PI IS STILL A MYSTERY

Defined as the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter and often represented with the symbol π, the earliest written representations of Pi date back to around 1,900 BC and 1,50 BC in Babylon and Egypt, respectively. Still, although the concept of Pi itself is rather straightforward, mathematicians have struggled for centuries to calculate the number accurately, leading to Pi being classified as irrational.

Unfortunately for modern scientists, Pi is often needed when performing calculations related to a wide range of scientific inquiries, including disciplines as disparate as chemical engineering and aerospace design. In these cases, scientists often use a mathematical “series” to represent Pi instead of a rounded-off approximation like the 3.14 most people are familiar with. According to the researchers behind this latest discovery, “if pi is the “dish” then the series is the “recipe.”

Still, those representations have limitations, leaving researchers continually searching for a more accurate and efficient way to represent this irrational number. Now, Arnab Saha, a postdoc, and Aninda Sinha, a Professor at the Centre for High Energy Physics at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), say they have stumbled upon a whole new way to represent Pi. If proven, it may offer scientists a whole new method for using the number in complex calculations.

ACCIDENTAL DISCOVERY OCCURRED DURING HIGH-ENERGY PHYSICS RESEARCH

Surprisingly, the team behind the potentially historic discovery says they weren’t even searching for a new representation of Pi. Instead, they were working on an aspect of String Theory that involved calculating the interactions of high-energy particles.

“Our efforts, initially, were never to find a way to look at pi,” Sinha explained. “All we were doing was studying high-energy physics in quantum theory and trying to develop a model with fewer and more accurate parameters to understand how particles interact.”

According to Sinha, it was during this process that he and Saha stumbled upon a whole new way to represent Pi, with the researcher noting, “We were excited when we got a new way to look at Pi.”

While the mathematics of the discovery are rather complex, the team says they are not the first to glimpse this new representation of Pi. Instead, they say that their representation “closely reaches” a representation made in the 15th century by Indian mathematician Sangamagrama Madhav. The team also says that 20th-century researchers also got close to their discovery but simply lacked the tools necessary to take their solution to the finish line.

“Physicists (and mathematicians) have missed this so far since they did not have the right tools, which were only found through work we have been doing with collaborators over the last three years or so,” Sinha explains. “In the early 1970s, scientists briefly examined this line of research but quickly abandoned it since it was too complicated.”

To make their historic discovery, Sinha and Saha say they “clubbed together” two firmly established mathematical tools known as Euler-Beta Functions and the Feynman Diagram. According to the press release announcing the discovery, “Euler-Beta functions are mathematical functions used to solve problems in diverse areas of physics and engineering, including machine learning, [while] The Feynman Diagram is a mathematical representation that explains the energy exchange that happens while two particles interact and scatter.”

As hoped, combining these tools resulted in an efficient model to help explain the particle interactions the team was studying. However, when confirming their calculations, they noted that the combination also netted something completely unexpected: a whole new way to represent Pi.

“The series that Sinha and Saha have stumbled upon combines specific parameters in such a way that scientists can rapidly arrive at the value of pi,” the press release explains, “which can then be incorporated in calculations, like those involved in deciphering scattering of high-energy particles.”

PURELY THEORETICAL DISCOVERY COULD OFFER UNSEEN BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE

While the work, published in the journal Physical Review Letters, is still purely theoretical, the team believes its new representation of Pi could help scientists across a wide range of disciplines, if not immediately.

For example, Sinha noted that 20th-century researcher Paul Dirac began his work on the mathematics of the motion and existence of electrons way back in 1928. However, Dirac didn’t live to see how his findings ultimately provided clues to the discovery of the positron and then to the design of Positron Emission Tomography (PET), which lets doctors scan the human body for diseases and abnormalities.

The team also points out that scientists can still enjoy the pure aspects of theory. As far as Sinha is concerned, that can be its own type of reward.

“Doing this kind of work, although it may not see an immediate application in daily life, gives the pure pleasure of doing theory for the sake of doing it,” the researcher said.

Christopher Plain is a Science Fiction and Fantasy novelist and Head Science Writer at The Debrief. Follow and connect with him on X, learn about his books at plainfiction.com, or email him directly at christopher@thedebrief.org.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Computers/Internet; History; Science
KEYWORDS: mathematics; physics; pi
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To: NorthMountain

Euler?.................


81 posted on 06/26/2024 9:14:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
Euler's Identity. Named for mathematician Leonhard Euler, who discovered it.
82 posted on 06/26/2024 9:16:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I know who he was.

It was a misguided takeoff on “Buhler?”...................🙄


83 posted on 06/26/2024 9:18:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Ahhh ... I was wondering if maybe my reference to the Edmonton hockey team was perhaps too obscure.


84 posted on 06/26/2024 9:20:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

No, I knew what it was.................


85 posted on 06/26/2024 9:21:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger; Hebrews 11:6; null and void; golux; monkeyshine; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; ...
Thanks for the PIng!

For all the words therein, this article lacks substance. It could use a little help.

John 3:14: "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

An excellent Point. It just never ends. To keep going is to find his address pretty quickly. The 358 beginning at position 9 offers a small hint that there's way more to come.

To really hack pi is to have pun with Pi, because

To arrive is to know that the answer to the question, "Are we there yet?" is always "No."

("ION" means "going".)

It's the "missing" capstone on the Great Pyramid, located in Egypt of all places. Perspective 101, the עוֹלָם olam vanishing point.

Exodus 3:14

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

91 = pi [פאי] = angel [מַלְאָך], and

There's even what I'd call a "conceptual benchmark" for Angel's Landing, because there isn't a physical benchmark from which this "token pin" is based (the NGS benchmark search map page is one I always keep handy, for such a time as this):

5785 FEET

Ironically only accessible in stores?

And then the name of Angel's Landing -- in Hebrew it is a transliteration (I had recently dug that out from the Hebrew Wiki page for Zion National *Park*):

אנג'לס לנדינג

"Landing" לנדינג

= 147

It's not just the literal physical address of The Point at the zero point of the Revolution at zip code 02108 (the birth year of the Twins who lived to age 147, or at least Jacob insofar as the Torah documents -- the truth never dies) -- 5785 is the up and coming Hebrew year. Here are some coordinating stats:

The height of the Great Pyramid *with* the capstone included is typically stated as being 147m/482 ft.

482 x 12 = 5784 📍(PIn)
5785 inches = 482.0833 feet

(24 x 241 = 5784, for anyone who recalls the key 241 gate over on the CMYK Tzimtzum color diagram)

Transcendental:

5784 + the kollel:

Building Blocks of the Soul, pg. 299
The Addition of the Kollel

Sometimes, in finding the numerical equivalent of a word, we increase the total by one. Rav Y.A. Chaver in Pitchei Sh'arim* explains that in such cases the root of the word is still attached to the upper worlds, and therefore dependent upon them. When we add the kollel (=1), we thereby note the word's unique connection and dependence Above.

(Angel's Landing)

In case anyone is still reading and maybe wondering what my chronic problem is, here's an example for why I find such information important -- it's all connected all-day-every-day:

Whose Landing place is it? Hikers going up and down, ascending and descending. Popular place. Some even put it on their bucket list. (A few have only gone up.)

"Angel's" אנג'לס

= 144, the same as kedem קדם (the days of yore, so to speak). And olam [עוֹלָם] is found in Proverbs 10:25, the verse that is the source text for why Joseph got his name in quotes, his epithet of "Ha-Tzaddik", Joseph the Righteous.

Proverbs 10:25 As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation. [וְצַדִּיק יְסוֹד עוֹלָם].

("Everlasting foundation" is also translated as "foundation of the world".)

Either way, the last letters of the words spell kedem (the days of yore), and here's a verse freely quoted in the NT, where "kedem" ended up as the "foundation of the world":

Psalms 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old [קדם]:

Matthew 13

34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

(Thus, I keep right on going. A "500-year" journey is but a few days.)

Now, עוֹלָם olam = 146 = the length of the Way of the Patriarchs. I simply make it a Point to go the extra mile.

Never boring, always surprising!

*פתחי שערים -- opening of the gates (see Proverbs 1:21, 20-33)

= 1118 =

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

(also "Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin", come to think of it)

Good thing I have that time machine!

86 posted on 06/26/2024 10:33:12 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Ezekiel

I saw one of those once.

It had Elevation: 12 Feet..................This is Florida, after all..............


87 posted on 06/26/2024 10:44:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
mathematicians have struggled for centuries to calculate the number accurately, leading to Pi being classified as irrational.

LOL!!! Someone failed math bigly. Hugely, even.

88 posted on 06/26/2024 11:22:15 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Red Badger

😂

Well, people needed to know! RV clearance, good!

I love the NGS benchmark map. Okay, not really because the recent ‘upgrade’ with all the bells and whistles has so many menus, options, features and symbols that the map becomes unreadable and unnavigable, unless at whatever point I can recall where to find the settings choices. That never happens. Arrg.

In general, though, I can at least scout a location for the marks. Some pretty weird and funny stuff out there, which serves to make memories. Plus it provides another fun way to travel the US and territories.

I’m always wandering around somewhere.

Benchmarking hobby without the hot sun beating down.


89 posted on 06/26/2024 11:51:53 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Red Badger
It was easier in King Solomon's day, when pi was 3.

See I Kings 7.23: the temple included a cast metal tank which was 10 cubits across and 30 cubits in circumference.

90 posted on 06/26/2024 12:51:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Well, math was easier before the Greeks got ahold of it.................


91 posted on 06/26/2024 12:53:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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