Posted on 06/24/2024 9:53:11 AM PDT by airdalecheif
Vietnam considers the United States its strategic partner in economic and investment matters, says Vietnamese Foreign Minister Bui Thanh Son.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
You should ask some of the US and POWs how they were treated. Nazis had a habit of killing U.S. G.I.'s that had already surrendered. Not all POW German prisons camps were run the same either. Yes, the Nazis hated the Russians, and the Poles, basically any other European soldiers who served with the allies. On the other hand, when Berlin fell, those top Nazi officials who escaped the bunker went out of their way to avoid running into Russian troops, and tried to make it out of the city, in order to find British or U.S. troops to surrender to.
At Stalag Luft III, where the "Great Escape" occurred, it was planned that 200 men would escape. Only 76 got out before the escape was discovered. All but three, a Dutch, and two Norwegian pilots were the only ones that successfully escaped. In retaliation, Hitler called for the murder of the 73 who were recaptured. In the end, the Nazis settled for 50...all in violation of the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of war prisoners. After the war, the murders of the allied airmen were part of the Nuremberg trials and several Gestapo officers were sentenced to death.
I guess I did, because I thanked you for reminding me of that in my post.
Yikes!
U.S. super patriot Jane Fonda must be outraged...
All her life’s work to get Americans killed is shot in the ass...
1968-1976 here. Yes it certainly is! My first thought was “are they going to try for a SEATO II?”
President Clinton visited the Vietnam Memorial in 1993.
I did not mean to imply that the Nazis were not evil or kind to our servicemen. They were EVIL. We have all heard/read extensively the atrocities that they committed. WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET.
My point was that the Japanese also committed atrocities during WW2. They just do seem to get the press that the Nazis did.
Similar to the FACT that both Stalin and Chairman Mao by far were the worst mass murders in the history of the world. However, because they mostly killed their own people, we may never know the exact number. Other than it was tens of millions.
Your father was a hero. I'm glad he survived despite all he went through in the year's ahead. Most men who serve in war, have scars that remain with them the rest of their lives, both physically and mentally.
I never got to buy a brand new car until I was 37, and I bought a VW Golf. That was around 1984. I've owned mostly Nissan Altima's since then, but don't buy, just lease now. Two years after I retired, I bought a loaded Altima in 2005. That car was almost 15 years when I traded it in to lease a new Altima. Besides normal maintenance, tires and brakes, the only thing I had to replace on it was the air conditioning compressor, and that was about $800 at the time. The car owed me nothing as I had paid cash for it when I bought it. It had about 105,000 miles on it, and still had the original exhaust and muffler on it. I traded it in, because at the time, my youngest son was living in Indiana, and I didn't want to drive my car that far, and end up breaking down out of state. I had rented cars from Enterprise a few times for my trips, but I figured I might as well just lease a new car, and not have to worry about blowing money on renting for a couple of weeks every six months. Of course, my son no longer lives in Indiana, and I don't travel far these days, to the point where I usually end up with about 12,000 miles on the car at the end of the three year lease. I'm on the lowest mileage plan they have...now 10,000 miles a year. As of August, I'll have one year left on the lease, and I think I have about 7,600 miles or so on the car.
Yes, I know that. It was June 1st.
Thank the @$$ Truman for backing up the French and breaking FDRs promise to not help European powers regain their colonies. Ho Chi Minh came to the US to offer Cam Ranh Bay to the US as a naval base. Truman ignored him and kissed DeGaulle’s @$$. The rest is unfortunate history.
Having grown up during the Cold War in America, I think there is a far bigger threat to American safety from those running the U.S. government today, than Russia is posing. Any danger from Russia is being incited by Biden, his handlers, NATO and globalists.
“”””””I now remember that back then, Kerry and McCain wanted Clinton to visit the Vietnam Wall, and I believe FR was involved in fighting it. I believe there was a link provided on FR, for a site where you could request a bunch of pre-printed postcards for people to fill out, demanding that Clinton not show his face at the Wall. The postcards were addressed to The White House. I handed out a bunch at work, and filled out one myself, and afterwards, I got audited by the IRS.””””””
Was there a second visit that FR was opposed to?
One interesting thing is that the Vietnamese today generally hate the Russians and their bullying. They have hated China for centuries. They generally want good relations with the US. After all, they won fair and square. Gotta hand it to them for that.
And the U.S. sent large amounts of arms and equipment to China, and a military mission to advise on their use against Japan, and look how they paid us back. Not just today, but aiding North Korea and North Vietnam against our troops after we gave them help. No good deed the U.S. does goes unpunished.
The government in Beijing is a bunch of Communists insurrectionists.
It’s a tough neighborhood. When your house straddles the border between the Crips and Bloods, you gotta keep on the good side of both.
The Japanese were so bad that the Nazi Attache at the rape of Nanking sheltered Chinese people in his legation iirc.
The great scandal to me is that so many Japanese and German monsters escaped punishment at the end of the war. The US let them get away with it for political and “scientific” reasons. The Japanese who ran the medical experiments were let go in return for the “research” data. It was worthless. Small thing with the Nazi “doctor’s. Psychopaths don’t do good research. They just brutalize and torture for the hell of it.
I said I thought the link was on FR. I am now corrected as I just remembered that I got the cards from Vietnam Veterans for America, as I was a member back then, in memory of my brother. I'd forgotten it until now. I just did a search, and found an article titled "POSTCARDS PROTEST CLINTON VISIT" in a Daily Press article for May 4, 1993, regarding his planned visit to the Vietnam Memorial. The postcard basically told him to stay away.
The LA Times also came up when I did a search for the Daily Press title, but both require subscriptions to view the whole article, and like most people, I won't do that.
Here's the link to the Daily Press article in case anyone has a workaround to view it:
Well, for supposedly hating them, they managed to bite their tongues and accept both China and Russia's help to kill our fathers, sons, and brothers for many years.
I'm currently reading the book "Fugitives: A History of Nazi Mercenaries During the Cold War" by Danny Orbach. It's quite an eye opener about the CIC which eventually became the CIA. I'm appalled at what I'm reading, and how the CIA hired known war criminals like Klaus Barbie, helped him escape Germany with his family, and even lied about his whereabouts to French officials who had a warrant out for his arrest for war crimes. And Reinhard Gehlen, former Nazi intelligence officer who they hired to run a spy ring, and they not only allowed him to violate the rules they'd set up for him, but they lost control of his organization, never knowing what his group was actually doing, or who he had working for him. He hired SS, SD and former German Police, which was in direct conflict with the rules the CIA had set down. And Gehlen let the spies in his group hire their own people. They used the agency to help other known war criminals like Josef Mengele to escape Germany, carried on witch hunts against people they felt had betrayed them during the war, and went after partisan fighters as well. Some of the spies Gehlen hired ended up in Egypt and Syria, trafficking illegal arms to those countries to use against Israel.
Gehlen was using his spy network to move up in the world, and he eventually got himself a job as the head of the BND (Federal Intelligence Service) founded in 1956 in West Germany. He worked under Chancellor Konrad Adenauer. When West German officials discovered that a KGB mole was working in BND, Gehlen was forced out because they believed his leadership in that agency had failed Adenauer.
[Kind of an insult to those who fought and died for a democratic Vietnam.]
They faught to keep Vietnam out of the Russian sphere of influence. Took a while but looks like it’s working.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.