UNBELIEVABLE: Experts Discover Oldest Written Record of Jesus Christ’s Childhood, Revealing an Amazing Miracle Not in the Bible

Gateway Pundit ^ | Jun. 12, 2024 | Cullen Linebarger

[SunkenCiv]

Heh, so it got posted, eh? :^)

[SunkenCiv]

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[Flying Circus]

First, the Gospel of Thomas is not considered canon by any Christian sect since the Gnostic heretics. Second, this story isn’t new. It is one of the first anecdotes from the Gospel of Thomas I ever heard about.

[TECTopcat]

umm... so the document was written 400 years after Jesus birth?

[SoConPubbie]

I see your problem, you had to stick another word in front of Bible to modify it.

[Cronos]

Its actually a part of a 4th century Gnostic book that has been rejected since the 4th century by orthodoxy ie by Catholic and Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox church

[Cronos]

What rot. No it isn’t.

Where do you get your false biblical statements from? Your pastor?

[daniel1212]

Irreverent.

[daniel1212]

I find it interesting that in this story, Joseph chides him for breaking the Sabbath, and not for creating the birds. I just looked it up. Jesus’ response was to ignore his dad and release the birds. When the priest heard and chided Jesus, Jesus said some words and the priest’s son “withered away”. Then he caused an entire crowd of people to go blind. I didn’t read far enough to come to the point where the child has some sort of epiphany and becomes the person we know of in the Bible. Another thing that is interesting is that His first REAL miracle was fairly mundane (as miracles go); turning water into wine. And He didn’t make a big show about it.

Yes, "This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him." (John 2:11) But it may be possible to understand this as meaning the beginning of miracles as a ministry of such.

And did it perhaps reluctantly, only after his mom requested that he do it. Moms are good about stuff like that - knowing when their child is ready and giving them a little push!

Rather than knowing when their child is ready and giving them a little push, she was responding to an important need, and looking to her savior for a solution, already knowing He was the One to help.

And a study the use of the phrase "what have I to do with thee" (2 Samuel 16:9; 1 Kings 17:18; 2 Kings 3:13; 2 Chronicles 35:21) shows that it is a challenge to the presumed justifiable nature of the request, and not as if the object of such is under any obligation to provide what is requested. But which premise Catholic devotees of their Mary find offensive.

Meanwhile, the Lord is again reminding Mary that His highest obligation is to obey His Heavenly Father, but who sanctioned this compassionate request for human need.

[metmom]

I have often wondered about the water into wine account.

I was thinking that it was possible they were at a relatives wedding, and when they ran out of wine if Mary had not done one of two things.

One is just go up to Him and say it, as anyone would in that situation, just talking about it. n If mr. mm and I were at a wedding and they ran out of wine, I have no doubt that one of us would say to the other, *Oh no. They ran out of wine,* just for informing them.

The other thing is, if it were a relatives wedding, maybe she went to Him expecting Him to solve it in the usual way. Have someone go and buy more wine.

I SERIOUSLY doubt she anticipated the way He dealt with it.

[metmom]

This is nothing new. Many of these are Gnostic writings that are very anti-Christian. One of these fake infancy narratives had Our Lord as a youngster being beaten in a footrace, cursing the winner “May you never walk again”, and breathing life in a toy bird he was making in arts and crafts. Some of these types of writings MAY have historical values and MAY have truths (NOT inspired writing) in them (”The Assumption of Moses”). Any of these faux infancy narratives are worse than worthless.

It makes it sound like Jesus was a little brat with Jedi powers.

No way Jesus cursed someone for beating Him, and He allegedly caused a whole crowd of people to go blind?

In Scripture, He tells the disciples that He always does the Father's will, and we know He never sinned.

Those actions attributed to Him as a child in that faux so-called *gospel* are completely inconsistent with the character and nature of God.

[metmom]

The miracle is not in the Bible because the Gospel of Thomas, although long known, is regarded as not canonical. I heard the story of Jesus as a boy making birds of clay come to life about sixty years ago in Catholic elementary school, with the admonition that it may not have been true.

Then it should never have been taught as possibly true.

When Catholicism treats something like that as feasible, Catholics should stop wondering why their religion has no credibility as far as Scripture goes.

[Elsie]

So?

What’s ‘new’ about this ‘find’?

[Elsie]

Next thing ya know they’ll find some gold plates under a hill in New York.

[Rockingham]

The story of Jesus bringing clay birds to life was related only as a story, nothing more. We would no doubt hear of it again, of course, and we had to know that it was not in the Bible.

Could the story be true? Who knows? It makes us think though of Jesus as a human boy, poised for small mischief like even good boys are by their nature.

The story is also about St. Joseph, chiding Jesus to remember and obey the Sabbath, but he does so without being wrathful and punitive. Surely there are fathers who would do better to take more of that approach to the inevitable misdeeds of their children.

[Elsie]

...Jesus said some words and the priest’s son “withered away”. Then he caused an entire crowd of people to go blind.

'Jesus' did something similar in the Book of Mormon:

Many people are destroyed...

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https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/8?lang=eng

[Elsie]

With a qualifier:

...did in Cana of Galilee...

[Elsie]

SOB!

[metmom]

Jesus never sinned.

He could not have, or rather would not have, done *misdeeds* or mischievous things.

[aimhigh]

With a qualifier: ...did in Cana of Galilee...

More likely, a description of where it took place.