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Western fighters in Ukraine are getting killed because they assumed the war would be easy, says a US veteran who fought there
Business Insider ^ | May 23, 2024 | Sinead Baker

Posted on 05/27/2024 8:55:15 PM PDT by NorseViking

A US veteran who fought in Ukraine said many Western fighters assumed it would be easy. He said some "treat it almost like it's a vacation, and they're not really expecting to die." Many foreigners won't accept that their training hasn't prepared them for this war, he said. Insider Today Sign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. Read preview Bull Email address Enter your email Sign up By clicking “Sign Up”, you accept our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. You can opt-out at any time by visiting our Preferences page or by clicking "unsubscribe" at the bottom of the email. Advertisement Some Western fighters who joined the war in Ukraine have been killed because they assumed the fight would be easy, a US veteran who fought in Ukraine told Business Insider.

The veteran, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said a lot of foreign veterans who came to Ukraine to fight against Russia's invasion had been used to fighting at an advantage and struggled to adapt to the conditions there, where they were often outmanned and outgunned.

"A lot of Westerners that come to Ukraine, they want to be heroes," he said. "I just kept seeing dudes that would go out to Ukraine, and they treat it almost like it's a vacation, and they're not really expecting to die."

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; russia; sineadbaker; ukraine; welfarewar
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1 posted on 05/27/2024 8:55:15 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

They should read up on the Siege of Sevastopol to get an idea of what Ivan is capable of before they go over there to fight.


2 posted on 05/27/2024 9:10:43 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2024)
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To: NorseViking

How many? Is this a few dozen, hundreds, or thousands? How many Americans? How many injured or killed?


3 posted on 05/27/2024 9:12:50 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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To: Reno89519

Let me get this straight. When you go into a war isn’t the possibility of getting killed part of the deal.

I’ll take my chances playing in the traffic.


4 posted on 05/27/2024 9:25:02 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: NorseViking
["and they're not really expecting to die."]


5 posted on 05/27/2024 9:31:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Reno89519

510 confirmed by obituaries in the Ukrainian media, maybe twice that many MIA.


6 posted on 05/27/2024 9:36:12 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The reddit limp wrist brigade hilariously failed.
But at least those larpers had the guts to go themselves, our war mongers in forum want the rest of us to go -kids and all- for their war adventure.


7 posted on 05/27/2024 9:44:28 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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That’s what irks me. The goal of dragging every NATO country into this stupidity.

Canada out of NATO now !


8 posted on 05/27/2024 9:50:48 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: NorseViking
It's ALL GOOD, since the Ukrainians won't admit that these Western chumps are dead.

That means they're not really dead.   

9 posted on 05/27/2024 10:04:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Reverend Wright

Same, watching them smugly snark at everyone over it.
And they don’t care about the reality of what their holy grail of war entails.


10 posted on 05/27/2024 10:52:04 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Reverend Wright

We’re certainly not going in a peaceful direction,


11 posted on 05/27/2024 10:53:23 PM PDT by ARW
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To: Darksheare; Reverend Wright

“Same, watching them smugly snark at everyone over it.
And they don’t care about the reality of what their holy grail of war entails.”

Some of them are bloodthirsty and downright crazy.


12 posted on 05/27/2024 11:09:58 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1; Reverend Wright

I noticed that too.


13 posted on 05/27/2024 11:13:44 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: NorseViking

The true believers who “eat up” Anglo-American propaganda-information are often on the “short end of the stick.”
I admire their courage, but they’re fools, fools who are dying for foreigners & a foreign cause, which has no relevance to the security position of the United States.

1)Western Hemisphere

2)Asia

3)Middle East
4)Europa

This is the list of regions that I’d go to war for, if The United States is threatened by a foreign power.

The first two regions are way more important than regions 3 & 4.


14 posted on 05/28/2024 1:28:36 AM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: NorseViking

It was the Russians who thought it would be easy because they packed their parade uniforms.


15 posted on 05/28/2024 2:41:07 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: NorseViking
Sounds a lot like the ... uh, volunteers for the International Brigades who fought against Franco in the Spanish Civil War ...


16 posted on 05/28/2024 2:56:18 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Think of it as evolution in action. [Oath of Fealty - Pournelle and Niven])
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To: NorseViking

You can get an accurate tally from the Telegram Channel “Track a Nazi Merc”

A whole lot of dead mercenaries. Some did it for money, via the US taxpayer funded contracts, some did it because the CIA reprogrammed their fear/hate matrix to actually think it would be fun to fight Russian artillery with small arms, and some because they saw the Ukrainian propaganda commercials of models holding airsoft guns and they thought they’d get lucky.


17 posted on 05/28/2024 3:31:06 AM PDT by Antioch (A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished -Friedrich Schi)
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To: BlueLancer

I think that is an apt comparison. Fighting for a romantic cause.


18 posted on 05/28/2024 4:01:49 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Let me get this straight. When you go into a war isn’t the possibility of getting killed part of the deal.

It’s obvious they DID NOT stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 😀

19 posted on 05/28/2024 4:16:08 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of Air Force pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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20 posted on 05/28/2024 4:17:26 AM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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