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Goodbye, Camaro
Eric Peters Autos ^ | May 14, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 05/14/2024 7:07:35 AM PDT by Red Badger

Sixty years ago, Ford unveiled the Mustang – and it changed everything. Prior to 1964 – the year of the first Mustang’s debut – there was no such thing as a “pony car.” Soon, there were so many of them it was hard to keep track of them.

One of them was the Chevy Camaro, which appeared just in time for the 1967 model year. Its time has just run out because GM has pulled the plug – because GM knows a Camaro with a plug is as oxymoronic as Elvis without the voice (and the presence).

In a backhanded compliment way, this is to GM’s credit.

Camaro will retire from the field with its dignity intact rather than be made into a mockery of itself, as Stellantis (which owns the Dodge brand) has done with the Challenger, another of the pony cars that was inspired by the Mustang. Dodge retired it once before – after the 1974 model year – because Dodge didn’t want to make a Challenger that was a mockery of itself. It was no longer feasible to offer Challengers with 440s and 426s (engines were once identified by their displacement in cubic inches rather than their liters, which served to differentiate them from other engines of the same displacement) or even 360s and 340s, on account of the government, which had imposed emissions standards that – at the time – could not be complied with without single exhaust and catalytic converters and other such devices that did to powerful engines what a naked picture of Hillary Clinton does to the libido of a heterosexual man.

But Chevy – almost miraculously – kept the Camaro (and its sister car, the Pontiac Firebird) in production after 1974, without making it a mockery of itself. The Z28 – which was the high-performance version of Camaro – was retired for a couple of years (1975 and 1976) which is how Chevy kept the Camaro from becoming a mockery of itself.

That and the fact that the non-Z28 Camaro was still a Camaro and there was still plenty of interest in a good-looking pony car, even if it wasn’t especially powerful or fast.

By 1977, Chevy was feeling better about Camaro and brought back the Z28. It wasn’t especially powerful or fast, but it had the potential to be both. Its 175 horsepower 350 cubic inch V8 was still a Chevy small block V8 with a four barrel carb and that engine could be fixed in a weekend’s time with a cam swap and headers and some tuning to equal the power of a 1974 Z28. And the car it was in was still a Camaro – and so still looked good. It had all the essentials that made the 1974 and prior Camaros so appealing.

You just had to make a few adjustments – to get around the government.

The Z28 improved as time passed – and Camaro got much more powerful and faster than it had ever been before. Fast forward to our time and the standard 2024 Camaro with a V6 has more power – and is faster – than the most powerful/fastest Camaro you could buy back in 1970 – the apotheosis of power/performance – before the government tried (and succeeded) in taking it away, the first time.

Now we are at the second time – and the government has succeeded, again. This time, finally. The 2024 Camaro will be the last Camaro – and this time, forever. There will be no temporary hiatus followed by a resurrection – as happened when GM cancelled Camaro back in 2002 and then brought it back, again, for 2010. The reason being the reasons for this cancellation are very different than the reasons for the cancellation last time.

That time – back in 2002 – the Camaro got culled because the Camaro of that generation was not especially popular, especially with female buyers. The fourth generation bodystyle was not like the previous ones that appealed to more than just young guys who liked powerful and fast cars. (The Ford Mustang has always appealed to both sexes as well as most demographics and that’s why the Mustang has been popular with enough people to keep it going for 60 years.)

Chevy realized there was still a market for Camaro – just not the one they were selling at the time. So Chevy stopped selling it. But only for a brief time. During that absence, Chevy – and Dodge – realized they had abandoned their market and thereby given it (the whole thing) to Ford, which by 2003 was the only American car company still selling a pony car.

And Ford was selling lots of them.

So GM – which was not yet run by someone such as Mary Barra, a political appointee who took over shortly after Obama took over – brought back a Camaro (in 2010) that people did want. Just as Dodge brought back a Challenger (in 2008) that people really wanted.

Both prospered – until their time ran out.

That time was last year for the Challenger, which is now no more. The device that Stellantis is going to try to sell as its replacement for displacement is likely to sell as well as a Beyond Meat “hamburger.”

And now the time has come for Camaro, which at least retires from the field with dignity, a casualty of changed times – and changed management.

That leaves the field to Mustang, the last of the Mohicans. And for similar reasons.

“The frontier moves with the sun and pushes the red man of the wilderness forests in front of it. Until one day there will be nowhere left. Then our race will be no more.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Hobbies; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; camaro; chevy; mustang; ponycar; racing; sports
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To: z3n

Yeah, I’m speaking out asking a victim myself.😎


21 posted on 05/14/2024 7:25:55 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: z3n

I believe Pontiac ran into too many problems with their 400 once they added all the pollution controls onto it. They switched to the Olds 403 which didn’t have the same issues.


22 posted on 05/14/2024 7:27:21 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Red Badger

Love’d ‘em

Same with the Mustang, Trans-Am, all the 1960s-70s-even some 80s - many brands

Those were truly great days


23 posted on 05/14/2024 7:29:31 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Obadiah

“Huge doors that sagged.”

Watching Rockford File, it crossed my mind how long those doors are, how close together those hinges are. Also the wheels and tires were big. Lotta unsprung weight.


24 posted on 05/14/2024 7:36:59 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: Red Badger

Camaros still exist? I can’t remember the last time I saw one.


25 posted on 05/14/2024 7:40:00 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: dfwgator

I am amazed they still make the Corvette. They made a global warming true believer the head of a car company.. idiots.


26 posted on 05/14/2024 7:40:31 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Red Badger

A few people I know that have had the latest generation of the camaro state they are so wide they’re difficult to drive and even parking can be a problem.


27 posted on 05/14/2024 7:41:52 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: discostu

They are big down here in The South............


28 posted on 05/14/2024 7:42:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: V_TWIN
...they are so wide they’re difficult to drive and even parking can be a problem.

The cars or the drivers?................

29 posted on 05/14/2024 7:43:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: discostu

” I can’t remember the last time I saw one.”

Start looking.....the new ones are everywhere.


30 posted on 05/14/2024 7:43:39 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger

The car


31 posted on 05/14/2024 7:44:01 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger
And now the time has come for Camaro, which at least retires from the field with dignity, a casualty of changed times – and changed management. That leaves the field to Mustang, the last of the Mohicans. And for similar reasons.

People seem to still like the new mustangs. We had an early 70's camaro, really nice little sports car.

32 posted on 05/14/2024 7:46:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cymbeline

Yes, very long - sorta like my 72 Mach 1 - had a Trans Am too


33 posted on 05/14/2024 7:48:07 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: V_TWIN

😁...........................


34 posted on 05/14/2024 7:49:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: gibsonguy

The C8 version(rear/mid engine) of the Corvette is IMHO the best version they have ever made. Or at least since 1968.
It has the same performance as cars twice as expensive.

I think the issue with the latest edition of the Camaro is that it was not as good of a car as the Mustang. Which is just the opposite of the Camaro vs the Mustang back in the 1960s and 70s. The Camaro/Firebird/Trans Am was a better car with a few exceptions.
This current Camaro just did not sell well in comparison to the Mustang and the Challenger.


35 posted on 05/14/2024 7:49:58 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Red Badger

Sad day for America.


36 posted on 05/14/2024 7:52:26 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

They were running out of 400 Pontiacs as I recall

When I ordered my 1978 Trans Am, you couldn’t get the Pontiac 400 T/A 6.6 unless with the 4-speed. Mine still came with a Pontiac 400 which had no problems at all.

I was going with the automatic for convience.

1979 Trans Am received the Olds 403 while I think a few were still able to get the T/A 6.6 with a 4-speed.

Ah......the good old days - I miss them - terribly

Mine was one of the last 1978s off the line - Van Nuys assembly I think

If I had waited 2 months I would have gotten a 1979


37 posted on 05/14/2024 7:52:26 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Goodbye Camaro, R.I.P. You were a good deal, a big bang for the buck, and won an amazing amount of trophies, made many records. Saw “Grumpy” Bill Jenkins with a white Camaro run in Englishtown, N.J. I think it was ‘68 or ‘69. And so long to Olds and Pontiac I loved them too. Ahh, the good ole days.


38 posted on 05/14/2024 7:54:44 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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To: Red Badger

1976 I had the choice between a 76 mustang and a 76 Nova Coucours. I chose the Nova because the Mustang was a stick shift and I had never driven a stick.

I…chose… poorly. The carburetor crapped out on the Nova at about 56,000 miles. Piece of crap car.

Not the first life mistake and there were many more to follow.

BTW, ended up learning a stick later for Hondas and Toyotas…


39 posted on 05/14/2024 8:01:38 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left )
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To: Omnivore-Dan; libertylover

And it’s all totally unnecessary!

We are not running out of petroleum.

The global warming hoaxers are responsible for this.

The is absolutely no reason to do any of these things.

It’s all a sham and a fraud.

This makes me so angry.....................


40 posted on 05/14/2024 8:01:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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