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I know from 10 years ago, some think the letter "y" is non binary, but I will stick with the experts at "Wheel of Fortune", that the letter "Y" is a consonant.

Before anybody gets mad at me, the above is tongue in cheek, mods pull if to controversial.

1 posted on 04/22/2024 5:16:56 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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Before anybody gets mad at me, the above is tongue in cheek, mods pull if to controversial.

This triggers me. I feel like blocking a bridge, hanging from a billboard but I think self immolation is going too far. I'll go to my safe space and cuddle with my teddy bear until I get over it.

2 posted on 04/22/2024 5:20:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The phone, the TV and the news of the world got in the house like a pigeon from hell)
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To: DallasBiff

but they never taught us when it was a vowel...


3 posted on 04/22/2024 5:23:07 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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mods pull if to controversial.

Next time try "too". As in too controversial. You're really pushing peoples buttons here.

4 posted on 04/22/2024 5:26:07 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The phone, the TV and the news of the world got in the house like a pigeon from hell)
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To: DallasBiff

Y can be a Consonant or a Vowel,

But Pluto will always be a PLANET to me.


5 posted on 04/22/2024 5:26:53 PM PDT by left that other site (For what is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed ...to be brought out. Mk 4:22)
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What is the second vowel in “rhythm”?


6 posted on 04/22/2024 5:27:54 PM PDT by Greg123456
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Some consider Y as an ancient glyph for “dangling participles”.


8 posted on 04/22/2024 5:30:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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9 posted on 04/22/2024 5:31:03 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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Y, as in Greek upsilon, started as a vowel. Same with its variants U, V and W. It always had both consonant and vowel forms, same with the letter it currently falsely shares a pronunciation with in contemporary speech, I (as from Greek iota).

Lots of articles not from 2024 being posted . . .
10 posted on 04/22/2024 5:31:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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We learned it as “sometimes Y and W “

Turns out there’s a perfectly good scrabble word “cwm” (pronounced “koom”)


12 posted on 04/22/2024 5:34:30 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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A secret they don’t share in school - English actually has more than 26 letters. Don’t trust your English teachers.

Among the suppressed letters is & (pronounced et). Another vowel they try to suppress is Æ. And finally, there’s the borrowed ï. And don’t forget to resume work on your résumé.


13 posted on 04/22/2024 5:34:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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Because sometimes you have to PARTY?


17 posted on 04/22/2024 5:36:13 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was off the ping list.)
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It seems to do with how it’s formed in the mouth, and its relationships to other letters in in the word:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/why-y-is-sometimes-a-vowel-usage


18 posted on 04/22/2024 5:37:13 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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The Romans called “Y” the “Greek I.” But for them, “I” was also both vowel and consonant as there was no “J”... with latter coming later to differentiate the vowel/consonant uses. Same thing happened with U & V which were also the same letter... and are still perplexing (slightly) modern observers of ancient and pseudo ancient inscriptions referring to “MARCVS AVRELIVS” et al.


23 posted on 04/22/2024 5:50:04 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: DallasBiff

It’s a mystery.


25 posted on 04/22/2024 5:57:00 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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Y not?



(Sometimes, Y identifies as a this, and sometimes Y identifies as a that, and...)

28 posted on 04/22/2024 6:10:12 PM PDT by Songcraft ( )
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Sometimes a vowel, not always a chromosome.


31 posted on 04/22/2024 6:17:15 PM PDT by glorgau
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Push some buttons. Gotta live a little!

Really, what timing. It all started with a simple Y, a simple Jew:

Exodus 3
3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

It really depends how you reed things..

While we casually refer to letters, which are written symbols, as vowels or consonants, the concepts of vowel and consonant properly belong to the domain of speech. In general terms, a consonant is a speech sound formed by some kind of constriction or impeding of air flow through the vocal tract, and a vowel lets the air flow freely through. The letter Y can stand for either of these types of sounds.

Reed instruments produce sound by focusing air into a mouthpiece which then causes a reed, or reeds, to vibrate. Similarly to flutes, reed pipes are also further divided into two types: single reed and double reed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodwind_instrument#Reed_instruments

Egyptian
Glyph origin
Representing two reed panicles, as a reduplication of (𓇋, phonogram for j).

Symbol

𓇌 (y)
Uniliteral phonogram for y.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%93%87%8C

some kind of constriction:

Egypt: Mitsrayim [מִצְרַיִם], "double seige, confinement"

In "yes," Y is representing a consonant, and in "gym" it is representing a vowel.

The name EGYPT evolved from the hieroglyphics for the "house of the ka of Ptah"

The "ka" being the life force of Ptah (Hands up!):

Ptah is an Egyptian creator god who conceived the world and brought it into being through the creative power of speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptah

In Hebrew, the name Ptah is spelled as פתח, the same as a doorway, opening; entrance; opportunity

Pharaoh finally got sick of Moses and showed him the door.

"There's the door!"

Because back to the word EGYPT, there's the one letter of the bunch that does not get along with the others. It simply does not rhyme.

E-G-*Y*-P-T

Then for "some odd reason", the hieroglyphic ideogram representation of Ptah's ka (life force) is visually similar to a Y, and also placed in the center of the heiroglyphics for "EGYPT".

It's also a visual representation for the etymology of the name Yehuda, "praise", which is rooted in the action of the hands being cast into the air. (Start with the name and click back in the root words.)


Altogether, the messaging strongly suggests that Egypt's lights went out with the Exodus. Pretty much the simple meaning. Nobody around who was able to ask Y.

EGPT must have suffered some sort of speech impediment that it was suddenly unable to overcome. 😖

🤷

33 posted on 04/22/2024 6:40:36 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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Welsh uses a e i o u w y as vowels. Each one of them has a variant with a caret (^) that modifies the sound. Gaelic uses a e i o u and variants with a grave accent (`) to indicate a lengthening of the sound. German uses a e i o u with variants with the umlaut (double dot) over the vowel to change the sound and usually the meaning of the word.
34 posted on 04/22/2024 7:05:02 PM PDT by Myrddin
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The entire article is nothing but circular logic.


37 posted on 04/22/2024 7:16:18 PM PDT by threefinger
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Ever since I learned that rule, I’ve been confused by it.

No longer am I confused.

38 posted on 04/22/2024 8:14:50 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. A)
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