Posted on 04/22/2024 8:51:43 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
I urgently prompted my Dr. for more than 1 year for prevention and treatment protocols for possibly imminent, high lethality viruses. She's a good Dr. but her training gets in the way of giving a straight answer. The following very simple elements use 1) an inexpensive Dr. Z. protocol, 2) saline and very dilute hydrogen peroxide administered via home nebulizer, and 3) low-dose lithium from Dr. Michael Nehls.
The protocol of the late Dr. Zev Zelenko, with which he suffered only 1 demise among 7,000 patients, uses Vitamin D, zinc, quercetin to substitute for hydroxychloroquine (generally unavailable because prescription only) to allow the zinc to be assimilated, and Vitamin C to make quercetin to work. (So, Vitamin C to Quercetin to Zinc.)
HCQ is prescription based only. Dr. Zelenko recommends Quercetin as an over-the-counter alternative. It is a plant derivative that does essentially the same thing as HCQ and is readily available. Quercetin, like HCQ, is a zinc ionophore which allows a rapid increase in intracellular zinc levels. It also enhances vitamin transportation to the cells. Vitamin C is a required cofactor for Quercetin to work. Vitamin D helps our immune systems to stay balanced.
Common home Nebulizer ($30-$40) as shown at Amazon, for administration into the Naso-Pharyngeal area of Saline and very dilute Peroxide. (CAUTION: Very exact dilution of the Peroxide is essential. Many people are used to saline nose wash. But failure to properly dilute the Peroxide can cause grave illness.)
Dr. Michael Nehls argues persuasively that, in addition to Vitamin D, low dose lithium, 1mg-5mg, is essential for good health of the hippocampus, for establishing new nerve cells so our store of auto-biographical memories aren't overwritten--we could forget what we used to know, and how we came to know it--and Alzheimer's avoidance. https://michaelnehls.substack.com/p/lithium-the-essential-trace-element
The only missing part of the protocol is prescription-only Azithromycin (take two 250 mg tablets by mouth on day 1, then take one 250 mg tablet by mouth daily on days 2 through 5). A group called the Wellness Company does website driven remote prescriptions, but only with a rather pricey kit at about $300.
Catching a disease in order to avoid catching it makes absolutely no sense. This particular piece of misinformation is so illogical and ridiculous, I don't see how people fall for it in the first place.
It's also very dangerous.
If I am in danger of exposure to rabies, would it make any sense at all to go out and catch it deliberately? Well, that *would* prevent me from catching it in the future. But probably not in the way I want.
Disease-induced immunity is not as broad or protective as vaccine-induced immunity. In addition, no immunity against coronaviruses lasts for more than a few months. Ever catch a cold, then another cold, then another cold? You keep catching them because immunity is not permanent.
Really?
First, where is/are the citation(s)?
I would like to know how the researchers are completely certain that those antibodies were actually induced by SARS1 and not one of the commonly circulating coronaviruses that cause the common cold? Antibodies tend to be cross-reactive. In my experience doing western blots, antibodies against a certain protein worked on extracts from a variety of species--human, mouse, rat, guinea pig, monkey, hamster, etc. And there was considerable cross-reactivity in each sample, as well, against proteins that were not the protein I was studying.
Since coronaviruses all have pretty much the same proteins, I would expect antibodies against coronaviruses to be fairly reactive against all strains.
Western blot analysis of G proteins of wheat seedlings grown in different light regimes.
This is a random western blot image that I pulled off the internet to illustrate the cross-reactivity of antibodies. Look at how many protein bands the antibody highlighted. The only way you can tell which protein is the "right" one is through size analysis (which is not included on this blot).
I should have put a disclaimer in. I provide links to the medical literature and other pertinent information. If you want to debunk me, you have only to look at those links and identify what I have misrepresented or even lied about.
“I surmise that you have never actually been in a biosafety or biosurety room”
BEEP. WRONG. Again. This is becoming a disturbing trend with you.
I made that assumption because your previous response appeared to have been written by someone who is completely unfamiliar with biosafety/biosurety protocols.
Fact is, you push the term vaccination when, as related to covid, its nothing of the sort. Nor does it stop someone from contracting it, nor does it stop someone from transmitting it.
A Covid vaccine is a vaccine because it causes the immune system to produce specific T-cells, B-cells, and antibodies against the spike protein coded in the vaccine. (Fun fact: a vaccine doesn't have to target a pathogen. Most vaccines target proteins of non-pathogenic organisms and are not used in medicine at all.)
Like any other vaccine, how well the Covid vaccine works depends on the immune function of the person receiving it. Because the vaccine actually doesn't do anything; the immune system does all the work. If your immune system is impaired for whatever reason, getting vaccinated won't be as effective. But, as long as you have some immune function, the vaccine *will* help to decrease severity of illness by training your immune system ahead of time.
FYI, the trope that a vaccine isn't a "real" vaccine if it doesn't protect 100% of the people receiving it from catching the disease has been around for decades. It was just dusted off and reused for Covid antivax propaganda.
I'm an ex-dem because I was raised in a very leftist environment and gradually came to realize that democrats are pushing socialism, which, in turn, leads to totalitarianism when allowed to grow unchecked.
Please explain to me how medical misinformation is a fundamentally conservative position. Given that my early experiences with medical misinformation all came from leftist sources, I am rather puzzled as to how charlatanism came to be embraced by conservatives at all.
Really? Wow. Just wow.
My statement was "The third way to prevent catching a viral disease is to have natural immunity from beating one of it's related strains."
This particular piece of misinformation is so illogical and ridiculous, yet more than two hundred years ago, British physician Edward Jenner created the first vaccine after noticing that milkmaids, who had previously gotten cowpox, were immune to smallpox. Jenner correctly figured out that giving people less harmful cowpox would give them immunity to smallpox.
It's called a vaccination - 'vacca' meaning 'cow' in Latin.
Just for starters:
https://news.ohsu.edu/2021/01/25/sars-cov-2-reacts-to-antibodies-of-virus-from-2003-sars-outbreak-new-study-reveals
https://www.science.org/content/article/covid-19-vaccines-may-trigger-superimmunity-people-who-had-sars-long-ago
Then, as people correctly pointed out, no one needed a pFascist murdeRNA shot since mankind is exposed to coronaviruses all the time - and would have the antibodies already.
Sure, we all see people catching Chicken Pox every couple of months.
You catch a different cold because you're facing a different strain of the virus. Your immunity, unless compromised, could be lifelong.
The researchers showed that people who had the antibodies for SARS COVID in 2003 still had the antibodies for COVID-19. (likely because the COVID-19 bioweapon was built by the same group who built the SARS COVID bioweapon in 2003).
I have both Ivermectin and HCQ that I bought from India.
I found a great resource for both and more.
I get them right here in home state
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That’s great but not in this commie state of NY
heads up
Lysine.
but you can get it too
That is not a research paper. It is a review which collates the findings of previous research in order to present the hypothesis that quercetin and vitamin C might be efficacious against Covid. It does not constitute pre-clinical in vitro, cell culture, or animal studies and certainly is no substitute for rigorous clinical studies in humans. The FDA would never give market approval for the use of quercetin with vitamin C to treat Covid based on this extremely limited review that has no clinical or animal data to back it up.
I previously discussed limitations of this paper in my reply #11 to this thread, but apparently messed up on the link.
20-Week Study of Clinical Outcomes of Over-the-Counter COVID-19 Prophylaxis and Treatment
This paper has a number of limitations.
First, it does not show the usual indicator of peer-review. It shows a "published online" date, but does not show the date it was received or the date it was received in revised form or an acceptance date. Peer-reviewed articles usually show three or four different dates. I doubt that the authors would be able to get this published in any peer-reviewed journal.
Second, the size of the study (113 subjects split between control and study groups) is extremely small, too small for any robust statistical analysis. Clinical studies with high statistical power usually include several hundred, usually over a thousand patients.
Note: the statistical weakness of this "study" was apparently noticed by other readers, since the authors issued the linked explanation of their statistical method a few months later. Benefit of OTC Formula Against COVID-19—Statistical Analysis Explained. The explanation is not very convincing, either, to anyone who is familiar with the types of statistical analysis used in clinical studies.
Third, the outcome measure was whether people caught Covid or not. The study did not examine treatment outcomes in patients who actually had Covid and no conclusions on the efficacy of the protocol described can be made based on the data provided.
This one sentence from the linked paper encapsulates the problem: At an interim evaluation point of 5 weeks after implementation of the protocols, the only clinical and/or test-confirmed cases of COVID-19 arose in the non-compliant control group; on the other hand, none of the regimen-compliant subjects presented with symptoms of any viral illness.
The study was non-blinded and patients basically self-selected to be in one group or the other. The difference in whether or not they caught Covid is most likely explained by behavior. Those who were in the "compliant" group were probably more concerned about their health overall and likely took other measures to avoid Covid, such as diligent use of masks and avoiding being around other people unless absolutely necessary. And those in the "non-compliant" group probably were less concerned about Covid and took more risks.
Fourth: none of the authors have experience in medical (especially infectious disease) research. They are all affiliated with the Comprehensive Pain Management Institute, LLC, Columbus, OH. Pain management is a different specialty than infectious disease. Furthermore, medical research is very different from the practice of medicine. Their lack of experience explains why this paper is of such poor quality.
I will end the analysis here.
Disclaimer: I am purposely open about my sources so that anyone who wishes to debunk me can look at the sources and explain exactly how I misrepresented them, how the sources themselves are suspect, or how I outright lied. (No one has debunked me yet.)
Yes for sure, actually I have a stockpile of both.
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The first time we got covid we used Quercetin, zinc, C, D, and my own anti-viral herb tinctures and anti-microbial herb blend. Being an herbalist, I have a lot of stuff on hand. Our sickness was very mild, lasted less than a week, with few sequelae. Covid was weird; had odd neurological effects, since it was a bio-weapon, not a naturally occurring virus.
Dr.Mom cannot be this ill-informed. She is an intentional shill for the Medico-Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex.
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