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Hunter-gatherers were mostly gatherers, says archaeologist
Guardian (UK) ^ | January 24, 2024 | Hannah Devlin

Posted on 02/02/2024 2:01:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: gundog

I am following the gatherer’s diet and walk 5 miles every day when I can. I am in my late 80’s now. Never had any health issues with heart, stroke, diabetes, joint aches, or constipation (in my opinion prime cause of colo-rectal cancer). I will continue to follow my genes evolved over multiple million years. My mother ate meat only once a week and fasted one whole day every month. She lived to age 103 without any serious health issues. But feel free to follow whichever diet is a joy in your life.


61 posted on 02/02/2024 4:55:08 PM PST by Bobbyvotes
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To: marktwain

“They balance out the Inuit of 10,000 years ago, who lived almost entirely off of hunting and fishing.”

The Inuit people are so much marine mammals they evolved the ability to process iron levels that would be fatal to normal people. Seal meat has near lethal levels of iron for ordinary humans. All of the descendants of the Inuit carry this gene and it presents itself in c.f. Blood tests as hemocromitosis but it’s perfectly healthy for First Nations people to have Iron levels that high this First Nations person has an iron level double ordinary humans and am perfectly fine health wise. I can eat seal , whale and walrus and have on a number of occasions w/o harm.

That said there was no domesticated animals in Mesoamerica before Columbus only the wild turkey was semi domesticated , iguanas have been kept in pens but not breed in the regular even to this day. It’s little wonder cannibalism was common in Mesoamerica the people were the livestock that could be domesticated or as t least feed on corn squash and beans the three sisters of the Mesoamerica diet.

It’s well documented that the Plains indigenous peoples lived largely on bison bison and woods bison two different species. First Nations in the Pac Northwest were fish centric the salmon is sacred for this very reason. Each culture adapted to the food resources of their ecological niches.


62 posted on 02/02/2024 5:20:40 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Meso Americans also had domesticated dogs they raised for meat. In South America they had llamas.


63 posted on 02/02/2024 5:25:51 PM PST by marktwain (quq)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“What about bugs?”

All manor of bugs have feed humans for thousands of years and over three billion people eat them to this day on the regular. All of Asia , Africa and most of Latin America eat bugs as a regular part of their diet. Asia has the widest range of bug eaten by far go to any market in Thailand, Vietnam, Korea ,China or Laos and you will see every form of bug cooked in a wide range of ways from stirfryed to grilled and steamed or boiled. Boiled silk worms are quite tasty same for stirfryed. In Latin America grasshoppers are a huge staple and very tasty as well. Ants are common as well. Africa corners the market on locusts they call them desert shrimp and they taste like fried shrimp when fried and salted.


64 posted on 02/02/2024 5:28:56 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: marktwain

Dogs are and were more valuable than captured peasants the Aztec rarely ate dogs they regularly ate humans. The missionaries were horrified by it and wrote in detail about it. If you can understand the original old Spanish the accounts are horrific. Long pork is the closest English language translation to what the missionary called human meat. Dog is good eating but they are man’s best friend so we give them special treatment. Korea just banned dog meat production. I have had it more than a few times in Korea and Vietnam as well. None of it was gamey it’s closer to veal than chicken or pork in consistency and it takes the flavor of what it’s cooked in. Human is on my list but modern humans are too loaded with pharmaceuticals, lead, mercury and other heavy metals to eat disregard cultural norms entirely strictly from a medical view point it’s not a good idea. Apex predator eats all before him that’s what makes him the apex species.


65 posted on 02/02/2024 5:34:56 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath
Matthew 3:4--"Now John wore a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was locusts and wild honey."

Some bugs sound slightly better than others. Spiders and flies would be last on my list. But never having eaten any except by accident, I don't think I could keep any of them down.
66 posted on 02/02/2024 5:39:27 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Bobbyvotes

Well....yeah. But there are diets/genetics that have been fine-tuned over time. The Japanese...probably any island people...have a fiet heavy in fish. The Mediterranean diet is kind of distinct. The North American diet war varied, but included corn, which the Euros imported. Are uou following a paleo diet? Hard to argue with whole foods...nuts, seeds, grains. Some people ought not eat nightshades...potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, peppers....


67 posted on 02/02/2024 5:44:57 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Bugs” is earth’s largest life Kingdom accounting for 75% of all lifeforms on earth by species number excluding bacteria and protists of course. Mature flies are always going to be a no no they feed on things loaded with bacteria and parasites. Fly larvae in controlled environments are a different animal entirely. Black soldier fly larvae are 70% protein and make for excellent animal feeds for any monogastric. Particularly fish which need fishmeal to be farmed. Fishmeal is moving one protein shortage to another source. Using alternative proteins grown on waste streams such as broken rice,corn midlings, ect turns what would be landfill wastes into high quality protein. No one says you have to eat the larvae directly fish will happily turn them into fish fillets at a near one to one ratio of feed to yield. Fish being the top spot in the vertebrates for feed conversion efficiency. Shrimp, crawfish, lobsters all need high protein feeds and they also get close to 1:1. People don’t think twice about e eating lobster which are less than 02% in DNA from a cockroach it’s all mental at that point. The reason to avoid roaches is they carry parasites due to where they live on and off.

That said grinding up larvae into a dry protein powder and putting that into pasta or bread would not alter the taste once processed into dry form protein powder are neutral in flavor. Same for power bars or liquid protein shakes they take the flavor of what you mix them with. Half of humanity is in constant critically protein deficiency. Want them to stop rushing into the first world then make sure they get their cut of the pie or world wars will be fought ones that the West won’t win without nukes. China can field a 100 million man Army same for India in conventional battles in a war of body attrition the West loses not that the West has the stomachs for tens of millions of deaths on the battle field.


68 posted on 02/02/2024 6:44:53 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: gundog

I eat mostly what grows on trees. I love veggies such as egg plant, zucchini, Okra, squash. Today I ate okra dish at an India buffet restaurant in Jacksonville today and it was just amazing. I am always stocked up on walnuts, almonds, mixed nuts, dried apricots, prunes, Medjool dates, dried mango, and raisins. My meals are vegetable stew with carrots, zucchini, sprouts and red potatoes unpeeled, with a bit of chicken and bit of Italian sausage for flavor. I make a big pot enough for a week and freeze it in small glass containers. I will eat it with either basmati rice or home made naan. For dessert i prefer whole milk vanilla yogurt from Aldi. Only other protein food in my diet is an egg every other day. I stay away from red meat as much as possible but occasionally I will go to Longhorn Steak House and indulge on ribs. May be 4 times a year. I avoid all colas. Hot water with lemonade is a great to start out the day. In the afternoons, I like a cup of coffee with dried fruit & nuts. When visiting restaurants I will order either grilled salmon or shrimp. I am doing really well with this diet, and hope I will have enough energy to keep going into my late-90’s. I want to emphasize how important daily walking is to stay healthy. I am blessed with beaches many miles long in my town, and that is my favorite place to walk while listening to music with earbuds. My sight and hearing are still good, which I am thankful for.


69 posted on 02/02/2024 7:19:33 PM PST by Bobbyvotes
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To: x

Yeah, it’s agenda-driven fake science, IMHO. It’s not unlikely that soups and stews (meat/fish/veggies) were the primary nutrition source for early groups.

A Rumination on the Invention of Soup
https://soupsong.com/zmar02.html

https://search.brave.com/search?q=neanderthals+invented+soup


70 posted on 02/02/2024 7:23:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Bobbyvotes; Harmless Teddy Bear; SauronOfMordor

“hahahahaha ..”

You are not even microminimally at the sarc stage here noob


71 posted on 02/02/2024 11:33:01 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: A strike

When you reach my age, I will treat you to dinner at Long Horn steak house.


72 posted on 02/03/2024 4:41:49 AM PST by Bobbyvotes
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep - the peaceful, agrarian peoples of the world never hunted and lived in perfect communist harmony. Until white British men invented rifles and went sailing off to Africa, saying “Look there, Thompson! It’s a tusker!” :)


73 posted on 02/03/2024 4:52:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I had heard of "the follow until exhaustion method". I only used it once. A bird had gotten into the office, so I propped open the front door to let it out. The stupid bird sat on the window above the door, so I tried to shoo it downward. It flew back into the office, so I found it and shooed it back to the door, which it sat above again. After about a half dozen round trips it was too tired to fly so I grabbed it and carried it outside. If I wanted a sparrow snack I could have had it.
74 posted on 02/03/2024 6:42:14 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: A strike
He is a retread.

He is either the one who scams disability or the one who thinks medical knowledge is genetic.

Both of them were dumb and both loved to talk about how "healthy" their flabby 400 pound butt is.

75 posted on 02/03/2024 10:40:22 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: KarlInOhio
Yep.

People do not realize that the ability to just keep moving is a human's biggest advantage in hunting.

You are not faster or stronger but you are relentless.

Even today there are horse walkers in the southwest of the US. In the end they just lead the one they want away.

Probably the way we got most of the animals we ended up domesticating.

76 posted on 02/03/2024 10:50:44 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: Bobbyvotes

Clearly your reading comprehension is a little weak. I didn’t say Inuits lived 500,000 years ago. For that matter Indians, as such, didn’t exist 500,000 years ago either. Ancient ancestors in Africa were hypercarnivores though at a time that correlates to rapid advancement in tool usage and brain size.


77 posted on 02/05/2024 12:36:16 PM PST by Flying Circus
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