Why Venus died

Phys Org ^ | JANUARY 26, 2024 | by Paul M. Sutter, Universe Today

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Red Badger.

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Selections from the keyword and "venus" search results, sorted:

• Can Venus Teach Us to Take Climate Change Seriously? (Venus CO2 96.5%, Earth CO2 0.03%!) [12/02/2018]
• NASA's new climate model of ancient Venus shows a picture of a habitable world [08/14/2016]
• Venus Weather Not Boring After All, Scientists Discover [09/27/2011]
• Climate Catastrophes In The Solar System [04/30/2007]
• Volcanic double-whammy says Venus still spews [04/19/2010]
• Mysterious bright spot found on Venus [08/02/2009]
• Bright Spot on Venus Stumps Scientists..... (No Clue) [07/31/2009]
• Neighboring planet could hit Earth...eventually! We're doomed!!! [06/10/2009]
• Earth may collide with Venus [06/10/2009]
• Were Mercury and Mars separated at birth? [01/19/2009]
• Where Did Venus's Water Go? [12/23/2008]

[Paul R.]

Oh, God, don’t tell Hannity!

Seriously, if in the very near future we cannot shade the Earth from some of the sunlight, we deserve our fate. Better yet, make the “shades” solar collectors of one form or another to collect and use the energy in factories in space, processing (etc.) materials from asteroids, or magnetically catapulted to said factories from moons and so on.

Of course, if the “collector” is a giant mirror for a furnace, it could potentially be used as a weapon turned Earthward. Hey, Houthis! How would you like 350 deg. F every day at 2-4 pm?

[Bobbyvotes]

Absolutely right. Sun will become a red giant like all stars do and burn up earth and mars. Jupiter & Saturn may survive a few more billion years.

[flamberge]

There is no evidence that Venus ever had any bodies of water on the surface. That surface appears to have been shaped by extensive flows of basaltic lava and chemical weathering from sulfuric acid in the atmosphere.

Radar scans of the surface indicate thousands of volcanic structures, some of which were active 30 years ago when the scans were made.

Four Russian spacecraft landed on Venus and remained operational long enough to get photographs of the scenery. They show smooth basaltic plains strewn with dirt and small rocks. The sky is yellow.

There are some very high mountain ranges on Venus, extending 7 miles above the main surface. The Russian landers were not directed to those areas.

The CO2 atmosphere at the surface has pressures similar to those of deep-sea bottoms on Earth at about 3000 feet. Temperatures run 700 to 900 degrees (Fahrenheit). Probes only last a few minutes under those conditions.

Venus has been used as an ugly poster child to illustrate the threat of "climate change". That seems like a ridiculous projection. Venus has never had a climate even remotely similar to that of earth.

[SuperLuminal]

I’d bet that the 7th extinction event will make Earth look like her sister...
Just like the 2nd or 2rd one did...

[Inyo-Mono]

Bookmark.

[higgmeister]

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know it was too close to the sun.

[IYAS9YAS]

Planet full of woketards?

[Gene Eric]

>> Venus has been used as an ugly poster child to illustrate the threat of “climate change”.

This article, however, blames the intensifying Sun

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Well damn! I thought we had billions of years until the sun exploded, now we learn we only have a half billion years.

“...water leeched to the surface”

Did the leeches carry the water there?

[Angelino97]

Why Venus Died.

Too much rain.

[flamberge]

This article, however, blames the intensifying Sun.

I found the very mention of "climate change" and the phrase "Why Venus Died" to be annoying references to propaganda articles I have seen elsewhere. I am a bit twitchy on that subject.

Venus did not die because it never lived. And there is no evidence as yet that the climate has ever changed there since the original condensation of the atmosphere, except for the extensive record of volcanic eruptions. It is possible, but we have no observations to make the conjectures described in the article.

Earth has experienced several Ice Ages since mankind existed on the planet, and we are at the tail end of one right now. There is geologic evidence that Earth was a frozen ice ball right down to the equator about one billion years ago. Earth was quite a bit warmer about 250 million years ago than it is now.

Mars was once quite a bit warmer and had shallow seas with an Earth-like atmospheric pressure. Something blew all of that away in the distant past.

Did something happen to Venus? Maybe.

There is an awful lot we do not know. It needs some more poking around.

[2nd Amendment]

Recent discoveries reveal MAGA movements destroyed Venus

[ganeemead]

Venus is not billions of years old, more like a few thousand, basically a new planet.

The most major key to understanding prehistory is planetary axis tilts.

For starters… Older Wiki pages and likely most astronomy books give the tilts of Jupiter and Venus as 3.13 and 177.3. Most pople would just glance at that and never give it any thought; what you had to realize was that you needed to view tilt as the angle distance from a perpendicular to the plane of the system. Viewed that way, Jupiter and Venus have the exact same tilt to within less than half a degree and newer Wiki pages give the tilt of Venus as 2.64 degrees.

That, of course, brings up the subject of Immanuel Velikovsky, who claimed that Venus amounted to material that had been ejected from Jupiter [as a means of relieving electrical stress]. The thing about axis tilts likely would not shock or surprise him; everybody else is totally snaffed by it. Nobody should believe in extreme coincidences and there is no way to start with either standard theories or David Talbott’s version of a Saturn theory and see Jupiter and Venus having the same tilt as anything other than an extreme coincidence.

Velikovsky also predicted the conditions that would be found on Venus, particularly the extreme surface temperatures and that was in 1950 when science books were telling us that conditions on Venus were almost certainly similar to those on Earth...

[Steve Van Doorn]

Venus is in my opinion the youngest planet in our system. The orbit and the gases in my opinion prove that.
I believe our sun nova's periodically and can create a planet.

It's the best planet for terraforming which could be done with comets and Asteroids around our system.

[Nateman]

The surface of Venus is relatively young. Something erased any meteor crater older than 500 million years. About the same time Earth was frozen from pole to pole. I suspect something happened which changed both worlds at the same time.

[Gene Eric]

>> we have no observations

>> There is an awful lot we do not know

Notwithstanding the other salient points you’ve made.

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Should critical thinking prove to be the unintended side-effect of the mindless propaganda, perhaps we’ll have a chance.

[Nateman]

Perhaps Venus had life once. If it did it apparently did not pull carbon dioxide out of the air like life on Earth does. Plants have become so efficient at this task that Earth’s Atmosphere is only .06% CO2.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Venus did not die because it never lived."
Exactly. It's a new planet.

[rellic]

Y’all just don’t want to admit it.’Earth is pretty unique, bcause it as made that way.

Magnetosphere to protect earth from the ravages of solar winds.
Lots of surface water.
Temperature ranges that doesn’t destroy proteins, DNA and other organic compounds.

Y’all keep thinking this was all just a random occurrence at your peril.
In my opinion it was designed.
We may find something like Earth somewhere out in the universe, my bet is it will have the same basic “Blueprints”.