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Now I am not religious so I have to ask those who are how would such a thing like this be judged?

Just wondering.

1 posted on 12/19/2023 5:53:04 PM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

The Powers That Be see this as the best possible solution — get all the old people to rush out and choose suicide. The ledger-books balance nicely after that.


2 posted on 12/19/2023 5:56:30 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: RandFan

Ah! I am Jewish, and religious. I went to Catholic schools.
Your question has many facets, including the personal, which I address, with respect to you.
I have been told over and over again that suicide is evil.
Abortion, I believe, is wrong, because it takes the life of the helpless, the innocent.
Socialist / Communist governments make a business from killing off the no-longer-useful.
That is wrong. The trend is wrong. The culture is wrong.
But I am not helpless, or innocent. My life is mine. My LORD is mine.
My pain, my decisions, my judgement before the LORD is mine.
I cannot bring myself to judge another man on suicide,
I am not sure whether I could bring myself to judge myself.


3 posted on 12/19/2023 6:00:07 PM PST by golux
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If they want to pay to be murdered under their own free will have at it.

If the government or anyone wants you dead pushes to do so against your will, then those doing the pushing should be exterminated.


4 posted on 12/19/2023 6:08:45 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: RandFan

$30 in fenanyl and some foil to smoke it from and you’re stone cold blue-dead.


6 posted on 12/19/2023 6:17:53 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: RandFan

There is a song by AC/DC which you are probably familiar with

Highway to Hell.

As traditional Catholic this song describes road those who take the easy way out of life’s trials and tribulations have taken.

Those who commit suicide have committed murder and having murdered themselves have no chance of redemption and forgiveness of this mortal sin.


7 posted on 12/19/2023 6:21:30 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: RandFan

There has been several times in my 90 years that I wanted to die. I even cried and begged to dye, When I was birthing my first born, I wanted to die because the pain was unbearable. I wanted to die when that same child died from Cancer at age22. I wanted to die when my husband of 52 yrs passed away. I am still here and still wishing that the Lord would take me, but I still know also that God is in control. There is something yet for me to learn. I will live until God says, “It’s time now my child”.


10 posted on 12/19/2023 6:26:15 PM PST by WVNan
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A 25 cent razor blade will do the job if you really want to do it.

Even a used one


14 posted on 12/19/2023 6:41:21 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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“How would such a thing like this be judged?” Simple. Active ending of death is guilty of murder, such as taking poison. Passive ending of death is innocent and ethical, such as allowing natural death and removing artificial iv’s.


15 posted on 12/19/2023 6:45:12 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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I have never understood the attention getting of involving others in one’s suicide.

One except in very limited circumstances can easily manage ones own painless death


17 posted on 12/19/2023 6:53:00 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: RandFan

So you have never hunted or fished?

Basic/lizard brain is to fight for your life.

I wounded a doe once, she hauld a$$ to the nearest creek. I found her and did the deed.

The basic instinct of every human, mammal, fish, insect is to live.

I’ve had a few people in my life just give up. Never understood it.

Life is precious.

To give up is to go against GOD.


18 posted on 12/19/2023 7:13:00 PM PST by waterhill (I Believe all you need for home defense is an 870 and a Catahoula)
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To: RandFan

A bottle of nitrogen welding gas (99% pure) is a whole lot cheaper. Just saying.


20 posted on 12/19/2023 7:30:33 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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Well, I’m a Buddhist so I’ll spare the forum the outlandish esoteric Eastern view of the consequences of suicide.
(spoiler; it ain’t good)

But I will say that charging someone $25k to off them is an outrageously unethical scam. Something I’d expect of the Bidens or Clintons. It makes me think Switzerland should look to Canaduh for some moral guidance.

And since AC/DC was brought up earlier on the thread I’ll leave this here ...

Just ring: 3-6, 2-4, 3-6. I’m always home. Call me anytime. :)


21 posted on 12/19/2023 7:37:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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Reminds of the scene in Soylent Green where Edward G. Robinson’s character goes to the suicide center to die, they give him drugs and show him a special film to aid him in dying. Morbid in a way!


22 posted on 12/19/2023 7:41:09 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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Janet Appleyard used her $25,000 life savings

The biggest miracle of modern medicine is its ability to keep anyone technically alive up until the minute the patient runs out of money.

28 posted on 12/19/2023 8:01:03 PM PST by Reeses
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It is tough. A friend of mine chose “death with dignity” in Oregon. He was in severe pain with incurable cancer and decided to take the drug cocktail which killed him. Is it suicide if he decided it with a clear mind knowing full well he would suffer a very painful death? Are we obligated by God to suffer physical a debilitating pain knowing the only relief we will have is be ending this life? I don’t know. Was it suicide for the people to jump out of the twin towers on 9-11-2001 rather than burn to death? Were they obligated to face the fire and burn to death? This is a philosophical and religious discussion above my pay grade.

As for the cost.... Just go for a drive in Chicago or Baltimore.


37 posted on 12/20/2023 1:21:43 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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Now I am not religious so I have to ask those who are how would such a thing like this be judged? Just wondering.

Without belief in God(of the Bible) there is only man's finite and rather limited and often perverse reasoning for morals. Thus the decline in belief is concomitant with moral degeneration, perverting every one of the 10 commandments, to the point where gender to self-determined based upon current feelings.

And the innocent are murdered based upon location and degree of functionality.

And in light of the fact that God gave life, only He has the right to take it, unless He has ruled otherwise, that of the just taking of life due to intentionally taking life.

Thus suicide is self-murder (autocide), and except in rare cases, rather than an end to troubles, far greater and enduring trouble has just begun.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

42 posted on 12/20/2023 3:21:26 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Once they are gone do they renege on the money?


44 posted on 12/20/2023 3:25:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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