Posted on 12/06/2023 3:55:42 AM PST by marktwain
In 2005, Travis Newman was archery hunting in Washington state. He had drawn an archery elk tag for the Blue Mountains near Walla Walla. Late in the evening of the 20th of September, he was on a familiar elk trail. As he approached a corner, he thought: “I don’t remember seeing that stump before.” The “stump” was close, about 10 yards. The “stump” transformed itself into a big bear coming at him full bore, furiously chomping its jaws. Travis thought the bear would bluff, took a step back, and speed drew his Taurus Tracker .45 Colt from a cross-body holster made by Uncle Mike. The revolver was loaded with Remington 250-grain jacketed hollow points.
Taurus Tracker 5-shot revolver
Travis’s first shot was fired at ten feet and went over the top of the bear. He fired the second shot at 4 1/2 feet. When he fired the third shot, the bear was right under his arm. The third shot broke the bear’s back, far down, disabling the hind legs. As the bear was passing, he stepped back and fired the last two shots in the revolver’s cylinder, double action, and hit the bear two more times in the back end. The entire action took less than three or four seconds.
The bear went over the edge of a ravine, just to Travis’ right. It is the upper end of the Wolf Fork Creek, which flows into Dayton, WA. Travis was left with an empty revolver. He dumped the empties into a coat pocket and grabbed in his other pocket, finding four spare cartridges. He loaded the four into the cylinder of the five-shot revolver, with the empty chamber under the hammer.
The bear was making an
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That is a tale I would be ashamed to tell. Under equipped in Bear country.
I wonder... how good are his archery skills? He is very lucky to be alive. And luck is a hideous goal to place your life upon.
The experience brings out one important fact, animals do not feel sorry for themselves, even when in great pain. That’s the difference! It’s not enough to mitigate the situation. The goal should be to stop the threat. A 45 LC is a preposterous load to consider.
Fudds are everywhere.
Choice of weapon and caliber whilst carrying in the Blue Mountains is made more complex by the existence of wolf packs there.
Had the gentleman been surrounded by a dozen plus wolves, he may well have lost the fight due to insufficient rounds.
Further, as Dean Weingarten ably documents, a black bear (non-grizzly) can be defeated by virtually any human-deadly round.
Finally, the mix of predators in the Blues runs from coyotes (known to attack in rare instances), cougar, and bears to wolves.
Therefore, in that general area, I carry 9mm semi-auto with hot loads in a 16+1 magazine, and two extra magazines (16 and 13) in my pocket. Virtually all black bear attacks will be broken with that round (see Weingarten). Shot speed is improved (for me, at least), putting more lead in the critter sooner, and you have plenty of rounds (46 9mm in my case, plus 5 in my .30-06 rifle) to handle the potential wolf pack.
In Griz country, 9mm will also (but less often) break off the attack. Lacking a 44 magnum in my collection, I opt for the .357 magnum Ruger Blackhawk Flattop that I own, loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast bullets in a chest rig. That round is reputed to crash through 4.5 feet of muscle and bone without fragmenting or stopping. And with Griz, you’ll be lucky to get off three shots before he’s on you, so round count doesn’t matter so much.
Did have a wild dog (escaped pets a generation or two ago) go ape on me from the brush at 70 feet in the gloaming twilight this fall. That thing was crazy. I drew the 9, and slowly backed down the ravine. That critter kept howling while I retreated 1/4 mile to the truck and left. That’s the first time I’ve ever drawn my sidearm in the field.
Anyhow, that’s my program. Opinions vary.
Yep. I used to have multiple 45LCs and those hot load 45LC cartridges need beefier pistols or rifles with very sturdy breeches.
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Grizzly Bear Attack in Montana Stopped with 9mm Pistols
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Handgun or Pistol Against Bear Attacks 104 cases, 97% Effective
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We found seven cases where 9 mm pistols were used to defend against bears. All were successful.
New wolf ‘pack’ could spell more pressure on Blue Mountains big-game (2017)
Washington Fish and Wildlife considering lethal removal of wolves in Asotin County
Aug. 21, 2023
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/aug/21/washington-fish-and-wildlife-considering-lethal-re/
Jetfire?
Is That the .22 short ?
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Lucky Guy !
I would just as soon shoot a grizzly in the ass with a .22 short as a 9mm Luger. It all depends on your relationship with your hunting buddy.
See #27.
Read the documented cases. Consider the possibilities. Make your own determination about what works, and what does not work.
I would rather face the wrath of a wounded girl friend I "accidentally" shot in the knee than a bear I just shot in the ass with a .22!
Makes a case for a 15 shot 10mm.
The Spanish-made Caricato was an 18-shot revolver. However, it also had three barrels and fired in 3-shot volleys
I'd hate to be the gunsmith with the task of regulating three barrels.
I’ve only hunted in bear country once in my life (not too many bears here in central Kansas), but I carried a Smith & Wesson Model 500 chambered in .500 Smith & Wesson magnum. First time I ever fired that revolver I just about ended up on my backside. Helluva a handgun round, generates more kinetic energy at the muzzle than the old .45-70 Government rifle cartridge which in its day was considered a “buffalo rifle”. Don’t shoot it much, just enough to stay proficient. At my age I wake up sore enough as it is. Regards.
I get the notion that a .45 is adequate IF the shots can be well placed. Disabling a bear’s hindquarters would probably necessitate a good spine shot, but in a close situation, that would be hard to accurately place. A big Magnum gun should give better odds.
I have shot bears with rifles. shotguns and handguns.
Good shot placement is the key to make any of them work.
Proper bullet ammunition selection helps also.
I am always torn between raw power and controllability.
Follow up shots with full power magnums loads are a lot slower to do.
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