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Update from Ukraine | Ruzzian Army Suffers in Avdiivka | Ukraine Takes the Ground | Awesome News
Youtube.com ^ | 12-5-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 12/05/2023 9:04:13 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: BroJoeK

I notice you did not answer my questions about Davydov because he is
A Journalusf. He is not with a credible news organization. And most
importantly he is not embedded with YouCrane troops reporting actual
facts. He creates Ukraine Propaganda.


141 posted on 12/08/2023 7:01:28 AM PST by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: BroJoeK

“What we care about is propaganda meaning lies or distortions weaponized for political purposes.”

“Am I being too unfair towards Mocker DiPippo?”

FIRST, You have correctly identified the problem.

Despite ANKE69 calling me a rural Ukraine expert [nicest possible translation from German], I have never professed to be. I cite references source information so others can read or hear relevant information for themselves not just “my opinion.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4201592/posts?page=134#134

Of course, others have chosen to mock and insult me as well. But, I make myself a target as it is known I will not respond to defend myself or criticize others in kind.

For me, to respond to “distractors” and “detractors” would give undo weight to their comments away from discussing the post topic.

2ND, Regarding, the phrase became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921. From the 1930s Slava Ukraine was used by different Ukrainian groups, as well as Ukrainian diaspora groups and refugee communities during the Cold War. Of course in the Soviet Union the phrase was forbidden and later other Russian authorities.

The phrase eventually resurfaced in Ukraine during the country’s struggle for independence in connection with the fall of the Soviet Union as similar to our “God Bless America” as God has shared his Glory upon Ukraine.

I do understand the issue for others not appreciating Slava Ukraine. To be respectful, I determined not use this phrase.

3rd, I have resolved to respectfully give informative comments that relate to status of: the Governments of Russia & Ukraine; the current state of the invasion by Russia; as well as supportive nations for Ukraine as well as Russia;

Everyone, have a GREAT day! :)


142 posted on 12/08/2023 7:10:44 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Uappreciate kraine)
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To: tennmountainman

Don’t think that’s going to happen. But I agree - all Youcrayniacal, non-taxpayer funded institutions and individuals should step up, liquidate their holdings to the max and send all the proceeds to the gay-dancing grease stain and his beard. They’ll sure know what to do with it! Lolol!


143 posted on 12/08/2023 7:17:58 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Allegra
Looks like Mommy's little mod yanked my response to Jokey's crazy shizzle about me, yet let Jokey's crazy, abusive comment stand, capisce? Or, as they say in Youcraynian, "capecheonkryninskizelenskyycoksmokski?."

Went back over Jokey's recent comments and did some correlating. Sure looks like Jokey's working at Mommy's behest.

Man, these Youcrayniacs are something else. Their obsession with the Eastern European craphole they worship is just nuts. They also come across as real ham-handed, low IQ types too. Geesh!

144 posted on 12/08/2023 7:28:44 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: BroJoeK

LOL!!!!


145 posted on 12/08/2023 7:40:12 AM PST by ANKE69
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Oh yeah, that pet mod *hates* me. Wishes I didn’t exist. LOL

That post of yours was hilarious. Fitting for someone who was blatantly trolling you and ignoring your repeated requests to stop posting to you. And probably a bit too real for the Youcrayniacs.

The one trolling you is the one who should have his posts removed. In the past, that’s how it would have worked.


146 posted on 12/08/2023 9:29:28 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Allegra
___ "...a bit too real...."

Issues regarding Ukraine are sometimes dismissed as if "old news." Here from this year....

Despite Poland and Ukraine having forged an extremely close alliance against Russian aggression this year, remembrance of World War Two history – and in particular the massacre of up to 100,000 Polish civilians by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) – continues to be a bone of contention.

Bandera – who led the OUN-B political organisation that formed the UPA – is seen as a hero by many in Ukraine for his role in fighting for national independence. Critics, however, see him as a fascist and Nazi collaborator."

Poland condemns Ukraine's commemoration of wartime nationalist leader Bandera Notes from Poland, JAN 2, 2023

And....

"Verkhovna Rada tweet references Stepan Bandera, a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist and antisemite whose followers engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Jews and Poles during World War II"

Victory to Come When Russian Empire 'Ceases to Exist': Ukraine Parliament Quotes Nazi Collaborator Haaretz 2 January 2023

The whole mess is very complicated, and to reduce the conflict down to good-versus-bad is simplistic.

But what is certain is this:

Debt Clock

147 posted on 12/08/2023 11:14:22 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; UMCRevMom@aol.com; gleeaikin; Apparatchik
Worldtraveler once upon a time quoting Allegra to Mocker DiPippo: "...a bit too real...."

The fringe of our anti-Uker forces here believe they have rewritten Free Republic's basic rules, thus allowing themselves unlimited rights to post insanely insulting, abusive nonsense while forbidding other FReepers from responding directly to them.

In any other context their posts would be deleted, and they would be long since zotted, but on Ukraine threads it seems it's just fine, they can post whatever abuse they want and then demand their victims don't respond directly to them.

So, I wonder if there might be generational issues here?
Was our younger generation never taught to use facts and logic to construct reasonable arguments that anyone might read and decide for themselves what they agree with?

Perhaps what they learned instead was to meme and cancel, meaning, why even attempt a rational argument when all you need do is post abusive memes and then cancel any direct responses?

"Mocked and memed", is this how we debate issues in the brave new world of woke cancel-culture?

Apparently, at least as relates to aid for Ukraine.


148 posted on 12/10/2023 5:54:08 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

"One of the central ideas of Ukraine is to lie to yourself and others as much as possible. Because if the truth is suddenly revealed, there will be no country."

-- Arestovich pic.twitter.com/rSIwmzmwcV— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) December 13, 2023


149 posted on 12/13/2023 6:58:30 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: BroJoeK

Too funny.

How did you get that duckie to frown?!?


150 posted on 12/16/2023 10:41:16 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: BroJoeK
?

No one can hide from mobilization in Ukraine

A local resident tells how one of the women made a list of all the men in the village and took it to the military registration and enlistment office.

He says that such cases of denunciations are becoming more and more common.… pic.twitter.com/tTtghubx4Y— Zlatti71 (@djuric_zlatko) December 31, 2023


151 posted on 12/31/2023 5:12:31 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston
JonPreston: "No one can hide from mobilization in Ukraine
A local resident tells how one of the women made a list of all the men in the village and took it to the military registration and enlistment office."

I'm surprised if such a list was even necessary or useful, since in times of existential warfare, nations always mobilize every resource for the war effort, including assignments of every healthy citizen to some war-related effort, military or otherwise.

152 posted on 01/01/2024 7:04:23 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: JonPreston
Read this carefully and don't skimp on the Words!

🔴URGENT MASSIVE AIR ATTACK ON UKRAINE 🇺🇦⚡🇷🇺

🔹️Air defense systems were activated in Kiev in an attempt to repel massive attacks by "Geran-2" kamikaze unmanned aerial vehicles.

🔹️ Explosions are heard in Odessa, Kiev and the region.#StandWithRussia #Russia #UkraineWar pic.twitter.com/x74BoWAug3— StandZ🇷🇺 (@JoaoRuchert) January 1, 2024


153 posted on 01/01/2024 7:58:16 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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JonPreston: "URGENT MASSIVE AIR ATTACK ON UKRAINE 🇺🇦⚡🇷🇺

🔹️Air defense systems were activated in Kiev in an attempt to repel massive attacks by "Geran-2" kamikaze unmanned aerial vehicles."

I'm seeing 90 drones & missiles New Year's Eve plus another 35 on night of January 1-2.
All of them reported shot down, no injuries or major damage reported.

The value to Russia of such attacks, as with Russian "Meat Wave" assaults against Ukraine positions, is thought to be in forcing Ukrainians to use up expensive ammunition against what to Russians are cheap and expendable men or equipment.

I don't see that as a winning strategy.

154 posted on 01/02/2024 1:56:48 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
Your ZELENSKY, he dance!

Let’s celebrate!!! 💥❤️‍🔥 pic.twitter.com/RM0A7yfI8O— Blaž Jemec (@BLAZJEMEC69) January 2, 2024


155 posted on 01/02/2024 3:26:46 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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