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To: Allegra
___ "...a bit too real...."

Issues regarding Ukraine are sometimes dismissed as if "old news." Here from this year....

Despite Poland and Ukraine having forged an extremely close alliance against Russian aggression this year, remembrance of World War Two history – and in particular the massacre of up to 100,000 Polish civilians by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) – continues to be a bone of contention.

Bandera – who led the OUN-B political organisation that formed the UPA – is seen as a hero by many in Ukraine for his role in fighting for national independence. Critics, however, see him as a fascist and Nazi collaborator."

Poland condemns Ukraine's commemoration of wartime nationalist leader Bandera Notes from Poland, JAN 2, 2023

And....

"Verkhovna Rada tweet references Stepan Bandera, a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist and antisemite whose followers engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Jews and Poles during World War II"

Victory to Come When Russian Empire 'Ceases to Exist': Ukraine Parliament Quotes Nazi Collaborator Haaretz 2 January 2023

The whole mess is very complicated, and to reduce the conflict down to good-versus-bad is simplistic.

But what is certain is this:

Debt Clock

147 posted on 12/08/2023 11:14:22 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; UMCRevMom@aol.com; gleeaikin; Apparatchik
Worldtraveler once upon a time quoting Allegra to Mocker DiPippo: "...a bit too real...."

The fringe of our anti-Uker forces here believe they have rewritten Free Republic's basic rules, thus allowing themselves unlimited rights to post insanely insulting, abusive nonsense while forbidding other FReepers from responding directly to them.

In any other context their posts would be deleted, and they would be long since zotted, but on Ukraine threads it seems it's just fine, they can post whatever abuse they want and then demand their victims don't respond directly to them.

So, I wonder if there might be generational issues here?
Was our younger generation never taught to use facts and logic to construct reasonable arguments that anyone might read and decide for themselves what they agree with?

Perhaps what they learned instead was to meme and cancel, meaning, why even attempt a rational argument when all you need do is post abusive memes and then cancel any direct responses?

"Mocked and memed", is this how we debate issues in the brave new world of woke cancel-culture?

Apparently, at least as relates to aid for Ukraine.


148 posted on 12/10/2023 5:54:08 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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