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With Barry Goldwater, and later Ronald Reagan, Buckley created the modern conservative movement. I eagerly await Carlson's attacks on the two others.
1 posted on 11/30/2023 9:54:45 AM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

Because he kicked the John Birch Society out of the Conservative movement ?


3 posted on 11/30/2023 9:57:29 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Miami Rebel

National Review stinks n00b.


4 posted on 11/30/2023 9:58:27 AM PST by dforest
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To: Miami Rebel

The great irony will be when some brainless kid on this forum condemns Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, or Bill Buckley as a “neocon”.


5 posted on 11/30/2023 10:01:05 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Miami Rebel

Carlson is losing it.


6 posted on 11/30/2023 10:01:52 AM PST by Wuli ( ,)
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With Barry Goldwater, and later Ronald Reagan, Buckley created the modern conservative movement.

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How hard did you have to try to be this wrong?

Goldwater and Buckley were libertarians. Reagan said one nice thing about libertarians back in the 70’s. Which they proved to be untrue. Reagan also said the Democratic Party left him.


7 posted on 11/30/2023 10:02:57 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Don’t you understand? There is only one true Republican and his name is Trump. Any other so-called Republican who has failed to take the DJT loyalty oath is a darn dirty RINO, even if they are too dead to do so.


10 posted on 11/30/2023 10:04:38 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Miami Rebel

And that it was a CIA creation tells you something.

The elite are very effective at interjecting their operatives into the leadership of any and every movement.


11 posted on 11/30/2023 10:05:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Tucker Carlson Says crazy things, this is an example of his craziness.

Lets not forget that there are kooky people who speak on Trump’s side as well.

I do want freedom of speech to exist on the internet however.


12 posted on 11/30/2023 10:05:21 AM PST by Bayard
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Buckley's series of debate videos are also interesting to watch.

It's classic debate club style debates, not presidential campaign style debates.

-PJ

13 posted on 11/30/2023 10:05:30 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Ayn Rand would carefully examine any party invitations to see if William F. Buckley was also invited. If so she would not go. So who was the bad guy here? Buckley wanted to protect Religion and Rand saw Religion as an enemy of reason. Although Rand came from a Jewish family she clearly was not a faithful child.


14 posted on 11/30/2023 10:06:37 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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Used to buy National Review religiously.

Believed that it, and as a counter balance, Foreign Affairs were giving me insight into the real struggles of right versus left in this nation and abroad.

Took me a while, but I don’t hold Buckley in any esteem any more. The father of the modern neocons, IMHO.


15 posted on 11/30/2023 10:06:45 AM PST by ColoCdn (Nihil, sine deo)
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How did Tucker manage to go off of the deep end so quickly?


16 posted on 11/30/2023 10:06:51 AM PST by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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Like I view Bill Buckley as like one of the great villains of the 20th century. I think he ruined-”

At that point, Carlson interrupted to shout “I couldn’t agree more!”


I know Buckley mostly as the founder of National Review, and I know it's an irrelevant rag devoted mostly to Trump-hatred these days, but during Buckley's lifetime it was a strong voice for conservatism.

So why does Carlson view Buckley as one of the great villains of the 20th century? The 20th century featured real villains like Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot, who between them murdered over 50 million people - how many people did Buckley kill?
20 posted on 11/30/2023 10:09:02 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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He named his kids after Buckly. Without watching it I’ll give him the benefit of the dount that based on the description (pounding the table and laughing while sayin I agree) he was trolling the other guy.


21 posted on 11/30/2023 10:09:07 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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Carlson interrupted to shout “I couldn’t agree more!” and pound his fist on a table with a laugh

so was he laughing at him, or agreeing wi him?


22 posted on 11/30/2023 10:09:43 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I’m wondering if Tucker and this libertarian whoever were just being sarcastic?

Look at the source. Mediate. They would have every reason to spin this in their typically negative way.


24 posted on 11/30/2023 10:10:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Well, since Barry Goldwater eventually became a rabid leftist in the culture wars,... but understand sarcastic hyperbole.

Buckley is disliked by many conservatives for establishing the notion the expectation that Republicans should shame and dismiss anyone who held unpopular opinions. What he ACTUALLY meant was that conservatives or libertarians shouldn’t put leftists in office by hopelessly DIVIDING the conservative vote unless the Republican mainstream candidate was every bit as bad as the Democrat, but his maxim was meant to argue against voting for the moderate. Through misuse, it was flipped from “vote for the most conservative candidate with a reasonable chance of being elected” to “vote for the most electable person who claims to be a conservative.”


25 posted on 11/30/2023 10:11:17 AM PST by dangus
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What EL-RUSHBO called Carlson..

CALLER: Hi. Mega dittos, Rush. My question is real simple. Why Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.?
RUSH: Well, you mean why do I call Tucker Carlson sometimes Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.?
CALLER: Yeah. I call him that now. My wife says, “Stop that.” (laughing)
RUSH: Do you know who Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. was?
CALLER: No, I don’t.
RUSH: Do you ever remember watching a television show — how old are you?
CALLER: Sixty. I didn’t watch much TV, though.
RUSH: Okay. Well, there was a very, very popular TV show in the 1960s called Dobie Gillis.
CALLER: Okay. I never saw that. That’s why.
RUSH: It was a college kids’ program. Dobie Gillis was a college student, and his buddies were college kids. It was kind of like a college kid version of Leave It To Beaver. And one of the characters was this uppity, elitist, snobbish, know-nothing character named Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. You know, who would name a kid Chatsworth? It’s obviously somebody’s last name. Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. So the kid was a preppie. And it’s a very affectionate nickname that I have developed for Tucker Carlson. I haven’t used it in a long time. But that is the source of it. You should YouTube Dobie Gillis and you’ll see the character.
You’ll probably recognize the actor who portrays Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. But that show is now, the sixties, that show is close to 70 years old. And it was in black and white, and I don’t remember who starred as Dobie Gillis, but that was the name of the show. And there were all kinds of great characters in it. And it was basically a bunch of smart-ass little college kids even back then. And it was just about their lives and how they interacted with the professors.

28 posted on 11/30/2023 10:13:16 AM PST by Paul46360 (Nuk'em all let GOD sort them out!)
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Tucker has jumped the shark.


33 posted on 11/30/2023 10:20:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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created the modern conservative movement

Designed to conserve nothing, it has succeeded brilliantly.

36 posted on 11/30/2023 10:25:47 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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