Posted on 11/30/2023 9:54:45 AM PST by Miami Rebel
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson agreed wholeheartedly with the assertion that National Review founding editor William F. Buckley Jr. was “one of the great villains of the 20th century” during a Wednesday interview with Dave Smith, a comedian and libertarian YouTube host.
Smith launched the initial attack on Buckley, declaring “I’ll tell you this: Whatever this atrophy in like the intelligence of the American people, it’s, I think it’s accelerating. I mean it’s-. Look, and again, just like you said I’ll disclaimer as well: I’m talking about people who I don’t necessarily like. Like I view Bill Buckley as like one of the great villains of the 20th century. I think he ruined-”
At that point, Carlson interrupted to shout “I couldn’t agree more!” and pound his fist on a table with a laugh.
“But, but, but he was a clearly very — also CIA by the way — but he was also a very intelligent guy and witty, and not speaking down to his audience, and like a popular show, his Firing Line show would be Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley arguing with each other,” said Smith.
In addition to founding and overseeing National Review, Buckley was a prolific, widely-read columnist who also hosted the long-running interview show Firing Line. He is regarded as one of the founding fathers of the modern conservative movement, and helped shape its ideological parameters as well as propel it to political success within the Republican Party.
He also worked for the CIA for two years after graduating from Yale.
Both Carlson’s brother and firstborn son bear the first name Buckley. It is not clear whether his brother was named after the famed conservative commentator and activist, although the Carlson’s father, Dick Carlson was a right-of-center journalist who was appointed the director of the United States Information Agency under President Ronald Reagan and U.S. ambassador to Seychelles under President George H.W. Bush.
He named his kids after Buckly. Without watching it I’ll give him the benefit of the dount that based on the description (pounding the table and laughing while sayin I agree) he was trolling the other guy.
Carlson interrupted to shout “I couldn’t agree more!” and pound his fist on a table with a laugh
so was he laughing at him, or agreeing wi him?
ROFL!!!
The sad part is, you’re serious and expect to be taken seriously.
I’m wondering if Tucker and this libertarian whoever were just being sarcastic?
Look at the source. Mediate. They would have every reason to spin this in their typically negative way.
Well, since Barry Goldwater eventually became a rabid leftist in the culture wars,... but understand sarcastic hyperbole.
Buckley is disliked by many conservatives for establishing the notion the expectation that Republicans should shame and dismiss anyone who held unpopular opinions. What he ACTUALLY meant was that conservatives or libertarians shouldn’t put leftists in office by hopelessly DIVIDING the conservative vote unless the Republican mainstream candidate was every bit as bad as the Democrat, but his maxim was meant to argue against voting for the moderate. Through misuse, it was flipped from “vote for the most conservative candidate with a reasonable chance of being elected” to “vote for the most electable person who claims to be a conservative.”
National Review stinks but Buckley was awesome. The conservative movement did not begin with DJT.
Ask Travis Walton if there are UFOs...
CALLER: Hi. Mega dittos, Rush. My question is real simple. Why Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.?
RUSH: Well, you mean why do I call Tucker Carlson sometimes Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.?
CALLER: Yeah. I call him that now. My wife says, “Stop that.” (laughing)
RUSH: Do you know who Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. was?
CALLER: No, I don’t.
RUSH: Do you ever remember watching a television show — how old are you?
CALLER: Sixty. I didn’t watch much TV, though.
RUSH: Okay. Well, there was a very, very popular TV show in the 1960s called Dobie Gillis.
CALLER: Okay. I never saw that. That’s why.
RUSH: It was a college kids’ program. Dobie Gillis was a college student, and his buddies were college kids. It was kind of like a college kid version of Leave It To Beaver. And one of the characters was this uppity, elitist, snobbish, know-nothing character named Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. You know, who would name a kid Chatsworth? It’s obviously somebody’s last name. Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. So the kid was a preppie. And it’s a very affectionate nickname that I have developed for Tucker Carlson. I haven’t used it in a long time. But that is the source of it. You should YouTube Dobie Gillis and you’ll see the character.
You’ll probably recognize the actor who portrays Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. But that show is now, the sixties, that show is close to 70 years old. And it was in black and white, and I don’t remember who starred as Dobie Gillis, but that was the name of the show. And there were all kinds of great characters in it. And it was basically a bunch of smart-ass little college kids even back then. And it was just about their lives and how they interacted with the professors.
Goldwater left no lasting legacy. His off brand style of politics is all but extinct today
Buckley left the National Review. He’d be mighty proud of the left leaning liberaltarian views they spout today.
I am well aware of that. The problem is that it died after Reagan. National Review became GOPe.
Bush people were not conservatives.
I knew that National Review was dangerous when Rich Lowry said that he did not see any signs of candidate Obama having communist ties and that he rather liked him. I am sure that Rich Lowry voted for Obama at least once.
Until he "lost" to Vidal.
Tucker has jumped the shark.
People tend to do that when they DIE. Perhaps you've noticed?
NR was excellent in the 1970s, 1980s, and even into the 1990s. IIRC, I dropped my subscription in the mid 1990s. The "next generation" was composed of people I did not agree with much nor thought to be providing insight or information.
Just about every "reform in government" action that took place in the 60s and 70s was an excuse to pack bureaucracies with leftist Democratic Party hacks.
Designed to conserve nothing, it has succeeded brilliantly.
You forgot Walter O'Malley.
That tale got embellished over the years...
Rand and Buckley got into a discussion at a party in the 60’s. Both were intelligent, passionate people that had strong, contradicting opinions. Buckley was said to have apologized profusely to the other guests while Rand was still arguing with him. Rand said later that talking with Buckley was ‘fun’, but that the other guests seemed ‘disturbed’ and that talking politics at a party might not be the best look.
She looked over party lists and didn’t go if he was there because she was concerned about disrupting the party...
Yeah, you’re right, I expect to be taken seriously.
Perhaps you can sit back and, like Buckley once said, “enjoy your former eloquence.”
Truth is too important for hagiographies, FRiend.
The tendencies were evident early:
“During his campaign, Buckley supported many policies that have been perceived as uniquely and unusually progressive. He supported affirmative action, being one of the first American conservatives to endorse a “kind of special treatment [of African Americans] that might make up for centuries of oppression”. Buckley also espoused welfare reform to emphasize job training, education and daycare. He criticized the administration of drug laws and in judicial sentencing, and promised to crack down on trade unions that discriminated against minorities. This is considered notable, as his political opponents on the left would have resisted anything that alienated trade union-affiliated voters.[92]
To relieve traffic congestion, Buckley proposed charging drivers a fee to enter the central city and creating a network of bike lanes. He opposed a civilian review board for the New York Police Department, which Lindsay had recently introduced to control police corruption and install community policing.[93] Buckley finished third with 13.4% of the vote, possibly having inadvertently aided Lindsay’s election by instead taking votes from Democratic candidate Abe Beame.”
I used to watch the show to ogle Tuesday Weld!
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