CDC Claims On Covid Vaccination And Natural Immunity Made Without Seeing Underlying Data: FOIA Document

Epoch Times ^ | 11/17/2023 | Hans Mahncke

[SeekAndFind]

In a new Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) response, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now admits that it recommended COVID-19 vaccines for people who had recovered from COVID-19 despite the fact that CDC subject matter experts didn't have access to the underlying data.

The stunning disclosure came in reply to a FOIA request for information on the CDC’s claim, first made on Oct. 29, 2021, that unvaccinated people with previous infection were five times more likely to get COVID-19 than vaccinated people.

The CDC’s claim was based on a CDC study published in the Nov. 9, 2021, edition of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The conflicts-of-interest section of the study had noted that a number of the study’s authors were being sponsored by pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Merck, Sanofi, and GlaxoSmithKline. At least four of the listed pharmaceutical companies were involved in the manufacturing and sale of COVID-19 vaccines.

Given that the conflict-of-interest disclosures were made at the time the study was first published, the CDC would have been aware of the heightened need to scrutinize its findings. However, this appears not to have happened. Notably, the CDC’s public pronouncement about unvaccinated COVID-19 survivors being five times more likely to get reinfected was made on the same day that the study was released as a preprint. This would have left no time for any review.

A lawyer who specializes in FOIA cases subsequently made a formal request for the data underlying the study. Last week, the CDC replied by admitting that the CDC didn't have this data. According to the CDC, the data was held by an "external partner organization and was maintained by a contractor." Notably, the CDC also acknowledged that "CDC subject matter experts didn't receive copies of the raw data prior to the contract termination."

Put another way, the CDC made its vaccination recommendation for people who already had COVID-19 without ever seeing or having had access to the underlying data. Furthermore, that data is now no longer available, meaning that neither the CDC, nor the general public, may ever know what it said.

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) had previously pointed out problems with the CDC’s study. He further highlighted the fact that the study’s authors had conflicts of interest. Mr. Massie’s concerns have now not only been confirmed but have also been aggravated by the fact that the CDC never reviewed or audited the study.

The CDC’s failure to scrutinize the study before making sweeping recommendations to the public is exacerbated by the fact that the emergency use authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines specifically excepted people who had previously been infected with COVID-19.

Pfizer’s emergency use authorization specifically stated that the “available data are insufficient to determine whether such individuals could benefit from vaccination.” Moderna’s emergency use authorization acknowledged that its vaccine study “was not designed to assess the benefit in individuals with prior SARS-CoV-2 infection.” Johnson and Johnson’s emergency use authorization used similar wording.

When it was pointed out in 2021 that the emergency use authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines didn't account for people who had already had the disease, Twitter (now known as X) promptly marked this fact as misinformation.

The existence of natural immunity, meaning that the human body remembers how to fight off diseases that it has previously been afflicted with, has been known since ancient Greek times. When the plague tore through ancient Athens in 430 B.C., Thucydides noted that those who had been previously afflicted weren't getting sick. He stated that "the same man was never attacked twice–never at least fatally." However, when COVID-19 broke out, the CDC appears to have cast aside 2,500 years' worth of medical wisdom. As we now know, the CDC did this without accessing or analyzing the underlying data.

The latest revelations about the CDC are the topic of an upcoming episode of "Truth Over News" to be aired on EpochTV on Nov. 15.

Views expressed in this article are opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

[ransomnote]

I’m saying valid tests to identify who has Covid and who has other respiratory diseases was not in use during the plandemic. I’m saying people who were ill, and had not had a Covid test, were advised that they had Covid, no treatment was available, and to stay home until their lips turned blue and they needed oxygen.
The WHO is not our government. Our government uses the WHO as ‘cover’ for what it did, but the public knows who got up in front of microphones and lied to us (CDC).

[Winniesboy]

May I say it’s very good to see you getting stuck into these issues again, with your usual combination of specialist expertise and common sense, after a year or so’s ‘retirement’ for recuperation. I fear that with many of your interlocutors it’s a lost cause, but there’s always the hope that a tiny glimmer of light may penetrate the darkness.

[grey_whiskers]

Sod off, you bloody sock puppet troll.

Reality on the ground beats corrupted regulatory agencies and egomaniac Mengeles, regardless of credentials.

[grey_whiskers]

MOST IMPORTANT, before AND after there was any money flowing to hospitals with Covid deaths, the Excess Death curves of ALL CAUSES aligned very closely with death counts attributed to Covid.

I see the fatal (har!) flaw in your propaganda. Do you?

[grey_whiskers]

https://twitter.com/kevinnbass/status/1725658863448347052/

Testifying under oath that they were offered bribes to change cause of death from the clot shots to COVID. All official stats on cause of death are now fraudulent until proven forensically to be accurate. On an individual basis.

To say nothing of rundeathisnear and other means of killing patients; faulty testing; and all the other shenanigans.

Because SCIENCE™! ...oh, and Calculus. Can't forget that.

[grey_whiskers]

We already know the PCR test was never meant to be used as a diagnostic, despite your blathering. We also know the number of amplification cycles were vastly extended: even if you were to ignore the fact it wasn't meant for diagnosis, the extension of cycles greatly increased the number of false positives.

We also know people were bribed to lie and attribute deaths to COVID-2984 instead of the clot shots.

We also know the "official" numbers pretended people were unjabbed for up to two weeks after the clot shots, further skewing the numbers.

We know Pfizer hid/lied about biodistribution of clot shot contents inside the body.

Also we know from an FOIA request, Pfizer cooked the books on the number of deaths in their experimental arm.

So waving around a "study" and jumping up and down like Yahoo shouting "SCIENCE™!" doesn't demonstrate anything.

Except that you are a $hot $hill and troll.

Oh wait. I forgot CALCULUS. That trumps everything!

[grey_whiskers]

Hey Dingbat.

MOAR disciplined, sound, rigorous scientific practice.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4197738/posts?page=1

Revolving door regulators.

And published in, like, a peer-reviewed journal and everything.

Let’s see what kind of sputtering ad hominem you come up with now.

Because ad hominem is sound SCIENCE™! — when you or your fellow trolls do it.

[grey_whiskers]

Stupid phone keypad.

COVID 1984 not 2984.

[Jane Long]

Meme is SPOT ON.

[Owen]

“I’m saying people who were ill, and had not had a Covid test, were advised that they had Covid, no treatment was available, and to stay home until their lips turned blue and they needed oxygen.”

No one over 65 was told this.

There is only one gold standard. It is inescapable. Spend more time with the Excess Deaths curves, actual collected data, and less searching out the latest wacko chasing view counts. Do your own examination and analysis of EDs.

The Chinese let a virus get out. It appears, somehow, in its initial strain, to have spared Asia. We could say the reason China’s numbers were (and are) so low was their attribution of death criteria departing from WHO. They insisted on complete respiratory failure to be a Covid death. Since death occurs because other organs aren’t getting enough oxygen from the poorly functioning respiratory system, those deaths did not get attributed.

But.

In 2020 Japan had low numbers. Korea had low numbers. Thailand had low numbers. The rest of the world had huge death counts, but not Asia, and most of those countries were using WHO attribution definitions.

They did catch up later as mutations brought them other variants that apparently could kill them. But not at first.

Suspicion of racial design of the virus arises, but that does get shot down by some indication that deaths on the US west coast were not sparing oldsters of Asian descent.

If you want to bark up some tree of horrible actions, that is the tree most deserving attention.

Here are the facts:

1) The young did not die. The Excess Deaths curves of ALL CAUSES (attribution doesn’t matter) only smashed older ages. The point of getting the young vaxed was to reduce deaths in the old. Though this was not a reality for which data had accumulated in the earliest days. A shotgun approach to public health is somewhat the norm. If it’s too soon to know intricate details of who is vulnerable, vax everyone.

2) The ED curves show undeniably that the young did not die excessively. They did not die of the virus in 2020 and 2021. And they did not die excessively in 2022. This means what it means. It is not escapable. The young did not die of the virus and they did not die of vax. If vax were killing people, the Excess Deaths would show it. They do not.

3) The old did die excessively. Hugely. They died excessively in 2020, in 2021 and less, but still, 2022 and 2023. There is no sign post vax of an increase in deaths beyond Covid for the old. Covid was killing them. Vax was not.

Go get the actual data. Not the opinions of people looking for attention.

[Jane Long]

Only, wrong, Big Pharma plant. As if anyone would believe YOUR fake news sources. Not that you provided any 🙃

Read some of these, and, weep….

https://freerepublic.com/tag/excessdeaths/index?tab=articles

[ransomnote]

You push fake talking points as data and then tell me to go get the actual data. ALL your information is FAKE NEWS. ALL OF IT.

You said that no one over 65 was told to stay home until their lips turned blue. Well yes, they may have been told to go to the hospital where they were denied all treatment and ventilators hastened their deaths. Those under 65 were told to wait at home until they couldn’t breath - THEN they go to the hospital where they are denied all treatment and ventilators hasten their death.

I have spent time with Excess Deaths curves, and your fake data stinks. I don’t know how you expect people to believe your fake data after they’ve been watching and learning all along.

[grey_whiskers]

3) The old did die excessively. Hugely. They died excessively in 2020, in 2021 and less, but still, 2022 and 2023. There is no sign post vax of an increase in deaths beyond Covid for the old. Covid was killing them. Vax was not.

Again, note how the utterly dishonest, reprehensible troll slides in a caveat, moving the goalposts, perhaps hoping people will skim over it and quote a misremembered sentence, creating a viral buzz that "the clot shots are OK"...

You and your ilk are, and remain, vermin.

[Owen]

dood the data is the data. You're at complete liberty to go visit each state and find their Excess Deaths and then compile it together. If you don't have numbers you don't have anything. Here you go, Alabama, pre vax. https://www.al.com/news/2021/09/alabama-saw-more-deaths-in-2020-than-any-year-in-history.html Now, you will have to do the proper work to adjust that for population gain trends from 2019, but that won't be too hard and then you have the Excess Deaths in Alabama. I am randomly searching Excess Deaths https://azpha.org/2021/12/17/azpha-total-mortality-report-finds-36000-excess-deaths-occurred-in-az-during-the-pandemic-the-largest-percent-increase-in-excess-deaths-of-any-state/ That will give you numbers. Actual numbers from the only people who keep the count. Now you could buy some plane tix and visit each county's health department and get the death counts, or you could let the state do their job. These are ALL CAUSES. This is what makes it the gold standard. There is no attribution question because it is all causes. Just do the work.

[ransomnote]

Owen,
Insurance companies, statisticians, and others have been all over the data, pointing out the distortions and failures to report. The data is HORRIBLE and is not the picture you portray.

[Owen]

No, they haven’t.

The only data is the gold standard. It’s incontrovertible.

People do not wake up in the morning working for the Alabama state health dept and look in the mirror and say . . . okay, I’m gonna go in to work and corrupt the excess death count. It’s what I long to do.

And nobody in all the other states does it either. Do your own analysis. Don’t decide analysis means going to look at websites where some wacko says he did the analysis.

Do it yourself. The numbers are there.

[ransomnote]

You take your Deep State shilling very seriously. You’re now assuring me I can be confident that the government has been truthful all along.

As I said, I HAVE looked at numbers, and I’ve done it for quite some time now.

[Owen]

Why are you destroying your life like this.

You know perfectly well you never saw the Alabama death count for 2020 and how it differed from the past. Why say you have done this.

Surely there is no question but that Excess Deaths are the gold standard. Just get the numbers. Not from someone else who has told you they got the numbers and this and that is what they found. Find it yourself.

Alabama published deaths in 2020. More than they had ever seen before. How can this be denied as a statement of Excess Death?

https://health.wyo.gov/wyoming-records-show-significantly-more-deaths-in-2020/

How can you delude yourself about all these sources. 2020 was like a scythe through the older population. Pre vax. Post virus. What is difficult to understand about this?

[ransomnote]

Owen, drama much? “Destroying my life”? I’m just refuting a shill, and having an otherwise good day.