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British author Douglas Murray: Only Israelis are asked to respond proportionately
Israel National News ^ | 10/13/2023 | Staff

Posted on 10/14/2023 2:45:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Britain-based author and journalist Douglas Murray appeared on Talk TV and was asked whether Israel’s strikes in the Gaza Strip constitute a “reasonable, proportionate and moral response”.

Murray fired back, “There is some deep perversion in Britain whenever Israel is involved in a conflict, and it is the word you just used: Proportion, proportionate, proportionality. Only Britain is really obsessed with this. I’ve heard in for the last few days incessantly.”

“Proportionality in conflict rarely exists,” he stated, and then explained that insisting on a proportionate response “would mean that, in retaliation for what Hamas did in Israel on Saturday, Israel should try to locate a music festival in Gaza, for instance – and good luck with that – and rape precisely the number of women that Hamas raped on Saturday. Kill precisely the number of young people that Hamas killed on Saturday. They should find a town of exactly the same size as a town like Sderot, and make sure they go door-to-door and kill precisely the correct number of babies that Hamas killed in Sderot on Saturday, and shoot in the head precisely the same number of old age pensioners as were shot in Sderot on Saturday, just to choose one town…”

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel
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1 posted on 10/14/2023 2:45:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You will never win a war fighting proportionaly.


2 posted on 10/14/2023 2:48:24 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You will never win a war fighting proportionaly.


3 posted on 10/14/2023 2:48:24 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: occamrzr06

Nor fighting to win “hearts and minds”.


4 posted on 10/14/2023 2:49:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Israel will have to destroy Hamas. In order to do that, they’ll have to destroy Gaza. Destroying Northern part of Gaza including their “capital city” is a good start.


5 posted on 10/14/2023 2:50:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I don’t care what Israel does to these demonic scum. I look forward to the day when the Quran is only read in Hell.


6 posted on 10/14/2023 2:54:06 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Man what a great point. The Left wants separate sets of rules for Israel and Palestinians.

There are many things wrapped up in this thinking (I believe)

- antisemitism by the Left
- The Left’s racist belief that Palestinians are not capable of civilized behavior and have to be given special accommodations.
- cowardice and fear of muslims when they are riled up.


7 posted on 10/14/2023 2:57:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: MinorityRepublican

Even if they wipe all of Hamas off of the face of the Earth, another group will express sympathy and replace them. Hezbollah, for instance.

With ideological zealots who are ignorant AF of regional and world history, you can bet it won’t take long.


8 posted on 10/14/2023 3:00:09 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Any Israeli response is called “perpetuating the cycle of violence.”


9 posted on 10/14/2023 3:00:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

No but Hezbollah is backed by Syria. And Israel can go to war with Syria. Assad is easily recognizable. He has a lot to lose if Syria goes to war with Israel.


10 posted on 10/14/2023 3:01:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jan_Sobieski

That’s right; Israel and the US. Everyone else? Bombs away to your heart’s content.


11 posted on 10/14/2023 3:03:47 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Was Hiroshima proportional to Pearl Harbor?


12 posted on 10/14/2023 3:05:09 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Dresden was burned to the ground in WWII. Japan had the first atomic bombs. these art tactics of war that were effective in the past.


13 posted on 10/14/2023 3:07:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Anything less than total annihilation of Hamas is defeat on an installment plan.


14 posted on 10/14/2023 3:10:30 PM PDT by Hildy (I)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Does proportionally include ripping open a pregnant women and killing her and her baby? Killing innocents in mass, rape and degradation? If proportionality exists from Israel Gaza will become a hell of horror. Israel does not do this. Hamas does do this. Kill the beast.


15 posted on 10/14/2023 3:14:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-oilfield roughneck-drilling fluiids tech-geologist-pilot-instructor-pharmacist)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

And always being told to use “Restraint”. Two words that should be out of the discussion now.


16 posted on 10/14/2023 3:14:47 PM PDT by yournamehere
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To: plain talk
The Left wants separate sets of rules for Israel and Palestinians.

Yep. If the left did not have double standards they would have no standards at all.

17 posted on 10/14/2023 3:18:07 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I like it. Reminds me of “if it weren’t for bad luck I wouldn’t have any luck at all”.


18 posted on 10/14/2023 3:25:24 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Every time someone calls for Israel to ease up, point out that that is what Putin wants. Then call them a Russian agent.


19 posted on 10/14/2023 3:27:28 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: occamrzr06

0bama called it “leveling the playing field.”


20 posted on 10/14/2023 3:34:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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