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1 posted on 10/14/2023 2:45:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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You will never win a war fighting proportionaly.


2 posted on 10/14/2023 2:48:24 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You will never win a war fighting proportionaly.


3 posted on 10/14/2023 2:48:24 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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Israel will have to destroy Hamas. In order to do that, they’ll have to destroy Gaza. Destroying Northern part of Gaza including their “capital city” is a good start.


5 posted on 10/14/2023 2:50:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I don’t care what Israel does to these demonic scum. I look forward to the day when the Quran is only read in Hell.


6 posted on 10/14/2023 2:54:06 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second.)
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Man what a great point. The Left wants separate sets of rules for Israel and Palestinians.

There are many things wrapped up in this thinking (I believe)

- antisemitism by the Left
- The Left’s racist belief that Palestinians are not capable of civilized behavior and have to be given special accommodations.
- cowardice and fear of muslims when they are riled up.


7 posted on 10/14/2023 2:57:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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Any Israeli response is called “perpetuating the cycle of violence.”


9 posted on 10/14/2023 3:00:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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That’s right; Israel and the US. Everyone else? Bombs away to your heart’s content.


11 posted on 10/14/2023 3:03:47 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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Was Hiroshima proportional to Pearl Harbor?


12 posted on 10/14/2023 3:05:09 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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Dresden was burned to the ground in WWII. Japan had the first atomic bombs. these art tactics of war that were effective in the past.


13 posted on 10/14/2023 3:07:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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Anything less than total annihilation of Hamas is defeat on an installment plan.


14 posted on 10/14/2023 3:10:30 PM PDT by Hildy (I)
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Does proportionally include ripping open a pregnant women and killing her and her baby? Killing innocents in mass, rape and degradation? If proportionality exists from Israel Gaza will become a hell of horror. Israel does not do this. Hamas does do this. Kill the beast.


15 posted on 10/14/2023 3:14:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-oilfield roughneck-drilling fluiids tech-geologist-pilot-instructor-pharmacist)
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And always being told to use “Restraint”. Two words that should be out of the discussion now.


16 posted on 10/14/2023 3:14:47 PM PDT by yournamehere
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Every time someone calls for Israel to ease up, point out that that is what Putin wants. Then call them a Russian agent.


19 posted on 10/14/2023 3:27:28 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; occamrzr06; Nateman; plain talk; Steely Tom; ought-six; Hildy; cpdiii
At the end of WW II, the issue of terrorism was considered, and proportionality was defined. The Geneva Conventions decided these feral psychopaths never met criteria of civility requiring protection. They didn’t meet definitions for militia, armed force, or volunteer corps, but were so dissociated from country or culture, so committed to butchery that they best matched Webster’s definition for a virus. They were not insurgents or freedom fighters, and when captured, certainly not prisoners of war. These killers were not members of organized resistance movements carrying arms openly. They carried no distinctive identifier. The Geneva Conventions found no category for defining terrorists and left them in outer darkness and beyond the pale.

The Geneva Convention writers held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our world. Their words synthesized a brutal, durable morality earned during the bloody deluges of the 20th century. They intended to isolate terrorist forces and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations.

There is much misplaced anxiety for the loss of civilian lives in Gaza. The obvious reading of Articles 28 and 29 of the Fourth Geneva Convention says Hamas is responsible for any civilian deaths in the areas they occupy. Those civilians qualify as Protected Persons within the terrorist’s physical control and cannot be used to render certain points and areas immune from military operations.

21 posted on 10/14/2023 3:35:29 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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So they want proportional response? Really? Killing grandmothers, raping men and women over dead bodies, cutting the heads off of babies with shovels and garden hoses? Really? I don’t believe that the Israelis can be that sadistic..


23 posted on 10/14/2023 3:37:30 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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Your response to aggression should not be “proportionate”.

It should be sufficient that the aggressor will thereafter lose any interest in pissing you off again.


25 posted on 10/14/2023 3:42:54 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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So if a Jew is shot in the leg by a terrorist he should only be allowed to respond with a shot in the terrorist leg who in response will likely shoot the Jew in the head and killing him thus denying the Jew a proportionate response.


27 posted on 10/14/2023 3:55:24 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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Yup.


28 posted on 10/14/2023 4:15:47 PM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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Whites aren’t even allowed that.


29 posted on 10/14/2023 4:25:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Proportionality? So that means that the Israeli soldiers will need to murder and then rape their woman, cut off their babies heads and then burn families alive?

I think that they’d have a hard time getting any of the Israeli soldiers to do that... But if that’s what they want... So be it.


31 posted on 10/14/2023 4:29:45 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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