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1 posted on 10/08/2023 5:35:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Viking2002

PING!


2 posted on 10/08/2023 5:35:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

About 30 years ago, took the kids to an Orioles game, wandered the Harbor, took in the aquarium. Took a boat ride to Fort McHenry. Went to Bertha’s Mussels and a nice Italian restaurant.

All now nothing but some photos and gray matter. Won’t set foot anywhere near the place now.


3 posted on 10/08/2023 5:39:12 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think that the problem is not the Pavilions it’s that the Pavilions are in Baltimore.


4 posted on 10/08/2023 5:39:55 PM PDT by vivenne (⁹)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SaveFerris; PROCON; gundog; Gamecock

“They should keep the mom and pop shops, that’s what everybody wants,” said Hughes.

**********

Well, except maybe the moms and pops.

Also, if there is mom and pop shoe store, stay away! They will skip town with your sneakers! (Seinfeld reference)


5 posted on 10/08/2023 5:40:28 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I arrived in Baltimore in September of 1975.

I remember Howard Street as being crowded with mainly black women shopping.

Its replacement is apparently in need of replacement.


6 posted on 10/08/2023 5:44:38 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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What once was will be no more .


13 posted on 10/08/2023 5:52:55 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The clearing of the buildings makes it easier to become a free fire zone.


15 posted on 10/08/2023 6:05:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I seem to recall when they were originally built in the late 80s when I was at USNA though it may have just been prework I’m thinking of....


18 posted on 10/08/2023 6:16:00 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unless the new owner plans to provide the tourists with armed escorts, what makes him think anyone will want to venture into Crime City these days?


21 posted on 10/08/2023 6:30:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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I almost got mugged there on the plaza a few years ago.

Saw a native fast walking toward me from 100 yards away. And as I moved forward I could see a change of trajectory to stay on me.

When he got about 20 feet away, with my hands in my jacket pockets, I squared up on him and stopped. He thought I was packing heat and said something about needing a dollar for bus fare and walked away.

Doubt I could get away with that tactic today.


22 posted on 10/08/2023 6:40:35 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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Safety...

Need to tear down the entire infrastructure of Ballimer and call Terminix to get rid of the evil vermin...


25 posted on 10/08/2023 6:56:27 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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"They need something right here that will say we want to see this we want to come to Baltimore to see that," said Joseph Weinstein, who grew up in Baltimore.

He recalls the good old days of going to the harbor. "This was the place we would come to as kids, as a family to go on a Sunday trip or a family outing,” said Weinstein.

The simple fact is that most peopke do not want to go downtown because of .... crime. No one in city government will admit that but it is the simple truth. Other than Ravens games and Orioles games, no one wants to go there. The crime has also spread over into Little Italy and the yuppie neighborhoods of Canton. Anything new they put in the Inner Harbor will also fail.

27 posted on 10/08/2023 7:40:04 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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Harborplace pavilions got old, they need to build something like a town square format.


28 posted on 10/08/2023 7:41:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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with a name like Jarnell Swecker it’s got to be good.
well maybe not.
probably bunch of corrupt minority companies gonna make bank.


31 posted on 10/08/2023 7:49:34 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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Back somewhere around 2000 I went to a convention in Baltimore. I had spent some years growing up in Virginia and Maryland, so I was a little familiar with the area, and when we went out as a big group to a crab house, I think the folks from the midwest who watched me eat the crabs were a bit horrified. I was piling up the empty carapaces of steamed blue crabs, smashing them like Gallagher, and I am certain they thought I was some kind of barbarian.

But I was just eating blue crabs as we did growing up...my dad would take us out in a boat, we would bring back a couple of of bushels of them which we caught on pilings in the Chesapeake. My mom would throw them into a giant pot with a bit of water in the bottom, one at a time using tongs, and the aggressive crabs would frantically snap repeatedly and sharply at the metal tongs as she threw them in.

After she had three or four in, she would grab the Old Bay Seasoning, and completly cover them with it. Not sprinkling, she used the pour opening and let it fly.

For some reason, the Old Bay seasoning seemed to calm the crabs down, or maybe it was just that they settled in because they didn’t have giant tongs swinging them around by one of their claws. In any case, they seemed to scuttle around in the pot until she poured that spice on top of them, then they just stopped,

Then she would throw another three or four crabs in, and repeat the process until that giant aluminum pot was full.

Once, one of the crabs broke free as she was transferring it. The sharp spike sticking out of the side of the carapace landed right on her great toe and pierced it, where she ended up with a badly infected toe. That was in the future. As soon as the crab got its bearing, it began to scuttle quickly, sideways, along the wall, pincers held menacingly at the ready on each side, arched and ready for battle. The dog was barking, chasing it along, we were all screaming and running about.

It was complete pandemonium.

Finally, my mother realized she better stop the crazy before a Veterinarian bill rose up out of the chaos, or a trip to the Bethesda Naval Hospital for one of us.

She waded in with the tongs, the ever-present cigarette butt sporting a long ash hanging from the corner of her mouth as it always did in those days, grabbed the crab and deposited in the pot. No sweat. But I remember how terrible her toe ended up looking.

When the crabs were done, she covered the dining room table with paper from the Washington Post, and just brought out a huge platter of crabs and began steaming the second pot. It was a great way to feed a family of eight back then, and we all loved them.

And we ate them like Cannibal Savages.

So, the people from Iowa or Wisconsin watching me that day no doubt viewed me in that light.

The part of that trip to Baltimore that depresses me a bit to this day, was an experience I had going back to the hotel from the conference.

I really liked the Skywalk that went from our hotel to the Conference Center. In the morning, it was bustling with people, the shops were open, and it was a grand time, no crosswalks to deal with. I thought it was great.

But one day, I stayed until the very end, and when I went back to the hotel using the Skywalk, it was nearly deserted. There were no people around. All the bustling stores were dark, and had iron bars across their windows and doors.

I hadn’t noticed at first, but when I realized it, I felt extremely unsafe. I opened a door to walk out on a section of walk across the street, and there were three teenagers loitering right in the middle of the walk to the other side. When I opened the door, they all stopped in mid-action and looked over at me.

I turned around, went back inside and down the stairs to get out on the street with all the people who knew from experience not to use the walkway after 5 PM. I didn’t know that, but the first time I went out there, it was pretty clear to me too.

Never been back down there since then, but I suspect walking out there as I had would be a sign of insanity today.

Sad. A city just as lost as Chicago.


32 posted on 10/08/2023 7:56:06 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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The plandemic probably finished it off. Maybe they should install a ferris wheel, like London's Millenium Wheel, the London Eye:


Great views of the city, and on the wharf there are boat rides and amenities.

33 posted on 10/08/2023 7:57:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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Harborplace is fine. It is the feral thieves and looters that got out of control.


37 posted on 10/09/2023 2:37:45 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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"The new developer, maybe he has big plans for something that will actually make tourists want to come specifically to this area,” said Weinstein.

Hundreds of armed guards?

40 posted on 10/09/2023 8:47:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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