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1 posted on 10/05/2023 5:43:13 PM PDT by gnarledmaw
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping )))))


2 posted on 10/05/2023 5:45:18 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Give the land back!


3 posted on 10/05/2023 5:45:42 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: gnarledmaw

Great.

Hit the Indians for reparations.


5 posted on 10/05/2023 5:48:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: gnarledmaw

“Then the pandemic rolled in. They couldn’t return to the Basin to collect samples for the other analyses.”

WTF?

Either BS or they are wussies.


6 posted on 10/05/2023 5:53:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: gnarledmaw

They started global warming with their Flintstones SUV’s and it continues to get hot ever since. 🤣🤣🤣


7 posted on 10/05/2023 5:57:25 PM PDT by George J. Jetso
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To: gnarledmaw

Not sure how this fits with everything else. But there is a lot of evidence that there were at least three large waves of people as much as 5000 years apart that came down into South America and overtook the people already living there to some extent. So the indians in North America now are not the original inhabitants. They were only the last inhabitants. Also the indians in different parts of North America and South and Central America were very different in culture, language and looks. So their claim to America is quite naive. Yes they were here. But they were neither the first nor the only ones. Some were quite aggressive. And others quite docile. Incas were quite advanced while others were nomads.


9 posted on 10/05/2023 5:59:29 PM PDT by poinq
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To: gnarledmaw

I always thought the idea that humans did not arrive in the Americas until after the last ice age was laughable. Less than 15,000 years and they settled the Americas from Alaska/Northern Canada to the tip of South America? No way.


10 posted on 10/05/2023 6:02:24 PM PDT by Freedumb
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To: gnarledmaw
Looks like it was some kind of place. They even had a petting zoo.


11 posted on 10/05/2023 6:04:00 PM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Nonsense. Recorded history is only six to seven thousand years. Where were these people before that? Extrapolate further to evolutionary postulates that man has been around for at least three million years and we have a problem. What were all these supposed humans doing during that time?

Yet we have a six thousand year history from supposedly living in “caves” to making computers. Where all all the bodies? Millions of years and they could not figure out how to get out of a cave and build a house? Nonsense.


12 posted on 10/05/2023 6:04:20 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: gnarledmaw

A better question is what wiped out the first people here.


13 posted on 10/05/2023 6:05:25 PM PDT by redgolum (We are not going to make it, are we. )
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Then the pandemic rolled in. They couldn’t return to the Basin

AYFKM? A site in the middle of not much and you were stymied?

Must be me,,,except for travel to the EU I pretty much went everywhere.


23 posted on 10/05/2023 6:54:49 PM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Bkmk


24 posted on 10/05/2023 7:09:32 PM PDT by kelly4c
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Ice and ocean constraints on early human migrations into North America along the Pacific coast

Abstract
Founding populations of the first Americans likely occupied parts of Beringia during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM). The timing, pathways, and modes of their southward transit remain unknown, but blockage of the interior route by North American ice sheets between ~26 and 14 cal kyr BP (ka) favors a coastal route during this period. Using models and paleoceanographic data from the North Pacific, we identify climatically favorable intervals when humans could have plausibly traversed the Cordilleran coastal corridor during the terminal Pleistocene. Model simulations suggest that northward coastal currents strengthened during the LGM and at times of enhanced freshwater input, making southward transit by boat more difficult. Repeated Cordilleran glacial-calving events would have further challenged coastal transit on land and at sea. Following these events, ice-free coastal areas opened and seasonal sea ice was present along the Alaskan margin until at least 15 ka. Given evidence for humans south of the ice sheets by 16 ka and possibly earlier, we posit that early people may have taken advantage of winter sea ice that connected islands and coastal refugia. Marine ice-edge habitats offer a rich food supply and traversing coastal sea ice could have mitigated the difficulty of traveling southward in watercraft or on land over glaciers. We identify 24.5 to 22 ka and 16.4 to 14.8 ka as environmentally favorable time periods for coastal migration, when climate conditions provided both winter sea ice and ice-free summer conditions that facilitated year-round marine resource diversity and multiple modes of mobility along the North Pacific coast.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2208738120


25 posted on 10/05/2023 8:04:56 PM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: gnarledmaw

The Indians were Mongols who walked here before what are now Russia and Alaska separated.


32 posted on 10/06/2023 5:50:52 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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36 posted on 10/06/2023 7:52:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: gnarledmaw

Weren’t the Vikings here first?


45 posted on 10/06/2023 1:03:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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Prince Madoc. Had he coughed harder this country would have been depopulated by De Leon’s landing...


53 posted on 10/06/2023 2:12:33 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: gnarledmaw

The land bridge to Asia was available from ~30,000 YA to ~10,000 YA. There have been no boats yet found of that antiquity so we presume the migration from Asia couldn’t have happened without that land bridge.

Also, there was no blood group B among the first Americans. The original South and Meso American Indians were all type O. The original North American Indians were either O or A. These facts have fueled the hypothesis that the migrations came in two small but separate and closely-related groups.

There have been human remains found in the nether reaches of South America that still bore Asiatic features and were carbon dated to too soon after the presumed +/-15,000 YA Bering Strait crossing hypothesis for them to have migrated the necessary 8,000+ miles from the crossing point. In other words, there is archaeology to support the hypothesis that humans were in the Americas well before 15,000 YA.

As for the slow rate of development of primitive man, no great civilization can exist without a cereal grain and domesticated meat-producing livestock. Cereal grains because it is the technologically simplest form of food that can be stored for years and still be consumable, and meat livestock because they convert cellulose into a concentrated source of calories that humans can digest. But there were no cereal grains until primitive man discovered natural mutations of seeded grasses.

Somewhere in Southwest Asia, a wheat grass naturally crossed with a goat grass, resulting in a fertile hybrid with a large head full of seeds known today as emmer wheat. Humans began domesticating emmer in about 8000 BC. The domesticated emmer crossed naturally again with another variety of wild goat grass, producing another fertile hybrid, bread wheat. Which gave man the first cereal grain crop, which was the beginning of agriculture. It also gave them a vital building block necessary to the creation of cities and civilization.

And that’s why human development was so slow for most of 200,000 years (NOT 3 MILLION) since H. Sapiens arose. Because nomadic tribesmen, people whose life needs are met day-to-day, don’t see much need for innovation. Farmers who cultivate the same plot of land year in and year out do.

Real intellectual progress was only possible once a there was means for thousands of people to live together in a common community where people could specialize in different roles. And all of that specialization starts with farmers raising cereal grains and livestock, producing far in excess of their own needs, so that not everyone has to spend their days seeing to it that their belly gets filled.


55 posted on 10/06/2023 3:02:40 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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