For later....
Thanks.
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Then they weren’t really dead.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
What effect will this have on the organ donation part of the medical establishment which is quick to part you out like an old Chevy as soon as they can’t detect brain waves?
Interesting.
Read an article like this about 9 years ago.
My Dad died 10 years. I was at his bedside for hours with his best friend when I heard him take his last breath. He wasn’t communicating at all. (And it was right after he heard me finally laugh.)
At the time I started to sob and said “I just wish I could have told him “Thank You””.
I think he heard me. Well at least I really hope so.
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My wife had advanced melanoma with brain lesions. She was dying though we held out hope her therapy would kick in. One morning as I was vcv shaving I heard her scream. I rushed to her and saw her arm shaking and her faced showed terror. Her last words, “ I’m so scared!!!” Then she went still, eyes open, no conscious awareness. She was still breathing. EMS came. Took vitals. Before transferring to an ambulance she woke. She was calm and lucid. At the hospital her oncologist said the meds weren’t working. She calmly said, “ Then we’ll stop.” She was transferred to hospice care where she spent 27 days. There was never again any fear. It is my belief that in her 25 minutes of non responsiveness she went somewhere and came back assured there was nothing more to fear. She did not have a true NDE but something brought her to a peaceful calm.
So we have limited Empirical evidence available. Of the two competing theories of consciousness:
1) Conscious experience is somehow a byproduct of the physics of a working brain.
2) Conscious experience is something that can interface through a working brain but has and independent substance to it.
The theory 2 is the one supported by the Empirical evidence we do have.
The brain acts strangely when it isn’t receiving blood flow. This isn’t surprising or in any way mystical. The brain also seems to act strangely when the the heart is stopped even if is circulation is being provided artificially - hence the well know psychological effects of open heart surgery.
Been operated on six times in the last few years. Almost all were falling to sleep and waking under adequate drugs, but once I recall going to happiness only to be turned back with the message “You have something yet to do.” As I’ve been befuddled all my life as what to do other than being a good person I feel on the hook to find that.
I guess I can take some comfort having faith I’ll probably be solid until that purpose gets to me; but I’m not happy asking to believe that something is predestined by fate out of one’s control. Fair enough - if you just look around you’ll see someone far worse off and have to count your blessings.
This is nonsense. They are not dead. If the brain is alive (any electrical activity) then it’s not dead. If the brain is truly dead (0 electrical activity) then it’s not coming back. So we are back to where we were - no one truly knows.
In Soviet Russia, the fjords pine for you.
If you really want to study a nonfunctional brain.......well......
C’mon, Man!
Death is popular. Everyone is doing it...
Most graveyards have fences around the because people are just dying to get in.
I’ve commented on this before, but I had a heart attack/cardiac arrest with 11 minutes of CPR and 2 AED shocks. It was the most pain free, relaxed, peaceful experience I could ever imagine. I was in a dark space which I perceived to be a tunnel. There were...apparitions floating in the darkness. I think they may have been dead relatives, but I’m not sure if I thought that then or later. I did not see the “bright light”. Then I woke up. I have no fear of death, at all. I do not, however, look forward to the process of dying.