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1 posted on 09/12/2023 5:51:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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EVs today are just indirect coal powered vehicles with the smoke stack in someone else’s backyard.


2 posted on 09/12/2023 5:51:36 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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It IS the most ill-conceived government policy objective in modern history...................


3 posted on 09/12/2023 5:53:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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This Democrat/Environmentalist hallucination will come crashing down RIGHT AFTER all the government subsidies end.

For now manufacturers and their beloved shareholders are ONLY surviving by government subsidies. In other words making PROFIT through FAILURE!!!


5 posted on 09/12/2023 5:59:47 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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So, short Tesla.


6 posted on 09/12/2023 6:01:44 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Banned from parking garages but they can turn the garages into living quarters for Illegals


7 posted on 09/12/2023 6:02:35 AM PDT by butlerweave
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its a cramdown

they are moving forward

because they are going to declare a climate emergency

its coming

winter is coming


8 posted on 09/12/2023 6:04:09 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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Let’s see, what could go wrong...

Travel to a different city for vacation (most airports are usually not in the best parts of town BTW), get your EV Rental and drive off. Not familiar with the area, not knowing where to go for chargers, turn the wrong way in certain neighborhoods, watch out!

Or, was that the plan all along???


9 posted on 09/12/2023 6:07:48 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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EVs save the planet the same way CoupFlu vaxxes protect public health.


10 posted on 09/12/2023 6:15:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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The only thing governments know is how to waste money but now they’re climate experts ,LOL


11 posted on 09/12/2023 6:15:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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I have thought that as the government forces ICE cars to the sidelines, hybrids would become the norm rather than battery EVs. But looking at the Toyota Prius, sales peaked ten years ago and have fallen precipitously since then. Suggests that EVs will follow the same trajectory, short of government control and coercion. It appears the gas guzzler is here to stay, short of draconian measures.


12 posted on 09/12/2023 6:22:33 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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EV’s could still have use in cities where drives are short. They are not a fit in the open country and pulling loads.


14 posted on 09/12/2023 6:23:43 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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Ain’t Communism Wonderful.


15 posted on 09/12/2023 6:25:05 AM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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“The electric vehicle honeymoon is over.”

oh stop it already.

You don’t want one, don’t buy it.
EV’s are prefect for lots and lots of folks.
I want one but can’t justify the cost for my limited use.

Would really like something like a simple, stripped 1985 Toyota Pickup with a Tesla motor, or an EV powered Kei truck. I don’t need a 2 Ton, $50K, 13 Ft long ICE monster.

Stop the subsidies (for ICE cars and Petroleum too), and let the market work.


17 posted on 09/12/2023 6:32:02 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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There is absolutely a market today for EVs, and companies like Tesla are not going away.

Mandating that ALL car companies switch to EVs, however, is insanity.

Unfortunately, I don’t think that states like Kalifornia that have mandated the switch by a date certain are going to change their minds anytime soon. As long as Congress continues to grant Kalifornia’s CARB the sweeping powers to regulate automobile sales, this will continue.


22 posted on 09/12/2023 6:39:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To imagine the general US population converting from their reliable ICE vehicles they can actually use their heaters and air conditioners in, fill up in a few minutes, drive across country in a few days instead of 2 weeks due to slow and frequent charging, and having shops all over town (maybe just one or two in small towns) that can work on most ICE vehicles with none working on EV’s when they break, with a minor fender bender totaling EV’s, with needing to install a $10K system at home to charge their EV’s they can’t possibly afford anyway, to the fires EV’s cause that end up burning down homes and apartment buildings, that are an environmental nightmare to mine and produce the expensive short-lived batteries, that are impractical in rural areas, would require the environmental climate cultists and their willing well paid slave politicians to inject enough LSD to separate them from reality for life.

So I wonder when they did that because they are already there.

There’s an old saying the EV cult should learn and repeat. “If you wish in one hand and crap in the other, guess which one fills up first”. That’s all the EV fantasy is; a handful of crappy wishes devoid of reality. It can work to a small extent in the dense cities (if they can find a place to charge them overnight) but are not practical for anyone else. EV’s are throwaway cars with the exception of the upper end Tesla models. Once the batteries need replacing after 10 years, they are not worth the cost of replacing the batteries. Then what about the change in technology in 10 years. Will the new tech even work with the old tech?


26 posted on 09/12/2023 6:42:50 AM PDT by Boomer (X-Twitter is NOT a free speech platform. The scummy Marxists are back in charge. )
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You don’t need market research when your goal is to not allow alternatives. If your only choice is an EV, no matter how crappy it is you’ll buy one. That’s the goal.


30 posted on 09/12/2023 6:51:42 AM PDT by redangus
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41 posted on 09/12/2023 7:28:17 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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Ain’t Central Planning grand?

It’s why socialism always fails.

Always.


42 posted on 09/12/2023 7:34:09 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Vivek for VP!!!!)
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I live in FL and own one EV and one ICE. I leased the EV just to give one a try as, like most, I’d driven exclusively ICE vehicles up till now. The EV is my daily driver up to 100 miles one way, 200 round trip. If I need to go farther, it’s ICE for me. I don’t want to be bothered to plan my route around public chargers. Range anxiety is real.

It’s my first EV. I don’t live in a city but not rural either. Can’t say EV has improved my life and I’m sometimes shocked at my electric bill - but the past two months have been hotter than normal so I can’t see how much extra I paid for EV charging vs. normal household electrical expense. I charge overnight in my garage and don’t miss the lines to fill up with gas at Costco.

If we have a hurricane evacuation it’s ICE all the way.

What I really need is a solar panel roof to recharge/recover power while driving or parked. It won’t bring energy cost to zero (it may not even be cost justified) but it would be still be cool to have the car charging while I play a round of golf.

When friends ask me how I like it, I tell them the car drives great, is quiet and might save some money on energy/fuel if you don’t amortize the additional initial expense of EV to the calculation. But don’t plan on keeping for 200,000 miles, maybe not even 100,000. Truth is, there’s probably little or no good reason to buy a high mileage used EV unless you can afford to junk it if the battery fails on you. The math doesn’t look good.


48 posted on 09/12/2023 8:21:30 AM PDT by BlueYonder
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It is insane to get an EV for any type of travel or to rent. You have to have contingency plans for your contingency plans because as often as not the “available” charging stations are non-functioning and there is a queue for the ones that do work. No more stopping at the gas station to top off that rental car a couple of hours before your flight. And what if you get stranded on a highway in a snow storm? Your battery capacity is only about 1/4 to 1/3 at most at it’s peak and that won’t last long at sub freezing temps.


49 posted on 09/12/2023 8:22:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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