Posted on 09/12/2023 5:51:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber
The electric vehicle honeymoon is over. Don’t expect the marriage itself to last much longer either.
The mass conversion from internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEs) to electric vehicles was never more than a Democrat/environmentalist hallucination anyway. It was the most ill-conceived government policy objective in modern history.
The transition should have been a non-starter. It’s riddled with numerous deal killers. It’s like having a dozen fatal diseases all at the same time.
Any goal as massive as a total conversion from ICE vehicles to EVs requires careful planning and infrastructure preparation. It would necessitate a rapid doubling of electricity generation and grid expansion. In today’s world that’s impossible.
EV promoters could never deliver on their promises. Their grandiose assurances were nothing more than wishful thinking.
There was no market research. Hmm -- I wonder why. There were no feasibility studies. Hmm -- I wonder why. Did they actually believe everyone would tolerate spending hours to charge their vehicles rather than the minutes they were accustomed to?
Car dealers are resisting further deliveries of EVs because of swelling inventories. Avis and Hertz can’t even get people to rent EVs! Yet, manufacturers are ramping up production just as consumers are balking. Something will have to give, and soon. EV makers and their shareholders will tire of pouring money down a rathole.
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Ain’t Central Planning grand?
It’s why socialism always fails.
Always.
EVs don’t share the same value proposition- there will be a good market for some, including hi-end luxury cars for virtue-signallers, delivery fleets, etc. It’s the crazy push for ICE replacement across the board that will end.
Yes, socialism always fails. But socialists will always tell you that the NEXT time it is tried, it will be a total success.
Some years ago I drove a Diesel Alfa 156 in Italy. Got 35-40 mpg on the Autostrada while cruising at the mandatory 100 mph minimum [hey it’s an Alfa].
I can’t say anything about durability [hey, it’s an Alfa] but in terms of economy and perforance it was a great car.
Actually, the fallacy is central planning. That socialism depends upon central planning is a lethal problem, but every time I see central planning it is a disaster. It’s the problem of any system based on the very false premises that those on top know better than anyone else or that efficiency comes from top down planning. It’s one downfall of much of government operations. A lot of corporations are going under because of the same management fallacy.
People are surprised the Jeep can accelerate from 55mph to well past 85mph in a few seconds. It pulls like a mule. I can only imagine how fast that engine in a car built for speed could be. Tunes a little different for HP versus torque and I bet a 200mph car is not unobtainable.
I live in FL and own one EV and one ICE. I leased the EV just to give one a try as, like most, I’d driven exclusively ICE vehicles up till now. The EV is my daily driver up to 100 miles one way, 200 round trip. If I need to go farther, it’s ICE for me. I don’t want to be bothered to plan my route around public chargers. Range anxiety is real.
It’s my first EV. I don’t live in a city but not rural either. Can’t say EV has improved my life and I’m sometimes shocked at my electric bill - but the past two months have been hotter than normal so I can’t see how much extra I paid for EV charging vs. normal household electrical expense. I charge overnight in my garage and don’t miss the lines to fill up with gas at Costco.
If we have a hurricane evacuation it’s ICE all the way.
What I really need is a solar panel roof to recharge/recover power while driving or parked. It won’t bring energy cost to zero (it may not even be cost justified) but it would be still be cool to have the car charging while I play a round of golf.
When friends ask me how I like it, I tell them the car drives great, is quiet and might save some money on energy/fuel if you don’t amortize the additional initial expense of EV to the calculation. But don’t plan on keeping for 200,000 miles, maybe not even 100,000. Truth is, there’s probably little or no good reason to buy a high mileage used EV unless you can afford to junk it if the battery fails on you. The math doesn’t look good.
It is insane to get an EV for any type of travel or to rent. You have to have contingency plans for your contingency plans because as often as not the “available” charging stations are non-functioning and there is a queue for the ones that do work. No more stopping at the gas station to top off that rental car a couple of hours before your flight. And what if you get stranded on a highway in a snow storm? Your battery capacity is only about 1/4 to 1/3 at most at it’s peak and that won’t last long at sub freezing temps.
You’re the only one making any sense here. Seems like everyone else is just basing their views on raw emotion.
There are many potential advantages to an EV economy/market.
The one I find the most appealing is the potential to be totally independent.
If there were millions of conservatives living off grid using solar, it would make us much more resilient.
Gas and diesel do not store well. Our electric grid could collapse (or experience long-term outages). Propane and similar ways to store energy do store well but are not cheap or efficient for many applications, such as vehicles.
An electric car battery could potentially store and supply electricity to an off-grid home when the electric grid is unavailable.
Of course, there are disadvantages, but these do not negate that EVs have lots of potential benefits.
Less coal and more natural gas. A disaster is at hand for electricity. Expect rates to double.
According to google, there are 19 tesla charging stations in Mississippi with a total of 119 chargers. Can’t imagine having to depend on that.
Just like they were from 1895 - 1915.
Another benefit of hybrids is that they actually make some noise. So they are a bit less likely to murder pedestrians who don’t notice them bearing down on them.
“They are perfect for no one. They have zero advantages.”
That’s just silly-
Folks in The Villages use modded Golf Carts (low-end EV’s) to get around.
My use is for something similar, 1/2 mile flat roads to some shops. Scoot around for a bit more for other errands. Back home. Next user in the family then can do their run-arounds. When were done, plug it in like my trickle charger for my other machines.
Groovy project? I’m Looking into how far I can modd an electric Wheelchair or “Scooter”.
EV is a really broad group of items.
over 4200 charging stations in GA - HEAVILY concentrated in the metro areas. (we are in in GA, but *NOT* metro).
One of our vehicles is a plug-in hybrid, which is perfect for my wife’s driving patterns. No EVs.
OK...what if each EV came with a mini windmill mounted on its roof? Maybe a mini windmill with solar panels for blades? Wouldn’t that eliminate the need for frequent re-charging?
We just bought, what is termed a "mild hybrid." It comes with a 48V battery that charges through regenerative braking. I'm sure it adds to the overall cost of the vehicle, but deployed in a majority of newer vehicles, could collectively meet a lot of the ridiculous CAFE standards and achieve a higher average MPG.
There's room for innovation when it comes to ICE vehicles, but it sure as heck ain't with EVs.
What was the cost for your charge? Is it possible to determine cost/mile driven?
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