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Did Congress Steal Trillions From Social Security? The Answer Might Surprise You
The Motley Fool via MSN ^ | 9/10/23 | Sean Williams

Posted on 09/10/2023 5:32:29 AM PDT by Libloather

Among America's numerous social programs, none lifts more people out of poverty each year than Social Security. As of 2021, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that 21.75 million people, including nearly 15.4 million seniors aged 65 and over, were being lifted above the federal poverty line due to their monthly Social Security benefit.

Unfortunately, this vital program that provides benefits to approximately 66.7 million people each month -- 49.6 million of which are retired workers -- finds itself on shaky ground.

The 2023 Social Security Board of Trustees Report estimates that America's top retirement program is facing a funding obligation shortfall of a whopping $22.4 trillion through 2097. In plain English, the Trustees believe the Social Security program won't collect enough revenue to meet outlay obligations (benefits and administrative expenses) over the next 75 years.

What's more, the Trustees Report estimates that the asset reserves -- the excess revenue collected since inception -- of the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund (OASI) could be exhausted by as early as 2033. Should this happen, sweeping benefits cuts of up to 23% may be necessary for retired workers and survivor beneficiaries to sustain their payouts through 2097 without the need for any additional reductions.

It's not the rosiest of outlooks for a program that's crucial to the financial well-being of our nation's retired workers. However, the reason(s) behind this $22.4 trillion long-term funding obligation shortfall may not be what you think.

Has Congress pilfered trillions of dollars from Social Security's coffers?

Just as the sun rising in the Eastern sky every day is a fundamental truth, every prominent Social Security article on the internet with a comments section is destined to be filled with claims that the program's shaky foundation is the result of "Congress stealing trillions from Social...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: congress; history; retire; security; social
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To: Libloather

The Covid relief plan lost 200 billion; in the Iraq war, 4 billion can’t be accounted for. This doesn’t begin to reveal how much of our tax money is mishandled. Best case scenario is that it’s just lost; worst case scenario is that it’s been stolen. How, with a straight face, can anyone say the government will do more good with our money than we will by keeping it? Think about how much in taxes you pay every year, to the feds and local government. Then consider how it’s squandered by corrupt and incompetent bureaucrats. Are you getting your money’s worth?


21 posted on 09/10/2023 6:27:00 AM PDT by Spok (Unconditional promises must be honored unconditionally.)
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To: Libloather

“Certificates of indebtedness” is generational theft and congress did the thieving.

People are stupid if they do not understand this fact.


22 posted on 09/10/2023 6:27:22 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: imabadboy99

the argument has existed since the ‘60’z when young women and high-schoolers became young mothers, that thdy sere placed on social security, welfare, and all the other programs made available to them.

ow, with all these unscbooled, untrained, illiterate ragheads, first thing tthey get is social security, etc. AND SUPPORT IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE!!

For those wbo are not aware, the federal poverty line for 2023 is a grand $14,590.00. That works out to a whopping $7.295/hr. Federal minimum wage is a staggering $7.25/ hr.
Minimum wage by the federal dictates is FOUR CENTS PER HOUR LOWER THAN THE FEDERAL POVERTY LINE.

I’m sure these ragheads are getting paid more than that for just existing. That just make some welfare mama’s mad, ya think?


23 posted on 09/10/2023 6:35:25 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Libloather

The truth will out?????

The answer is that the federal government has borrowed all of that trust fund money and spent it, exactly as Krauthammer asserted. And the only way the trust fund can get some cash to pay Social Security benefits is if the federal government draws it from general revenues or borrows the money—which, of course, it can’t do because of the debt ceiling.


24 posted on 09/10/2023 6:36:52 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: imabadboy99

Decades ago a couple of companies that dealt in statistics and such estimated that the cost, back then even, of illegals being in the nation, was between $400 billion and $600 billion after all the costs, both direct costs and indirect (such as a fami,y losing the breadwinner, having to go to,therapy for the death, missing work themselves, added costs of the funeral etc, schools,having to convert learning material to accomodate non english xpeaking illegals, things like that) were added up.

In some states, some prisons are made up of nearly 75% illegals, with a cost of $145 per day per illegal to house and feed (again, that $$ figure was from decades ago- probsbly a lot higher now)

I’m guessing that the estimated cost to,the nation today would be over $1 trillion dollars per year just on illegals alone.


25 posted on 09/10/2023 6:38:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Prolixus

[[$7.99 for a 30 oz jar of Miracle Whip in the local supermarket last week...]]

But the zombies in the msm assure us that the economy has never looked better, that Joe’s plans are working out wo derfully, and everyone is truly happy and content now

Almost $3 for a SINGLE bottle of soda now! We stopped at Kentucky fried chicken the other day, first time in a very long time, and could not beleive how expensive it was for a meal for two. We could have easily bought about 5 whole chickens, with money left over, for what it cost us there.

Yeah, the economy is swell Joe!/ extreme sarcasm


26 posted on 09/10/2023 6:44:02 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Wilderness Conservative

There used be articles on reports each year showing how much of an agencies spending was “unaccounted”.

DoD was always at the bottom of the list. The biggest abuser was HHS for which about 40% of its spending was not accounted for.


27 posted on 09/10/2023 6:44:49 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Prolixus

8.99 for box of cereal!!! Who buys it? I wait til there’s a special for 1.99 and load up.


28 posted on 09/10/2023 6:45:25 AM PDT by gcparent (God Bless America )
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To: Terry L Smith

” make some welfare mama’s mad”

Well at least the “welfare” fund is not in trouble ...
That would be a shame.


29 posted on 09/10/2023 6:48:58 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: Bob434

Last week Had kfc first time in yrs. Yummy but 8.99 for 2 piece meal.


30 posted on 09/10/2023 6:48:58 AM PDT by gcparent (God Bless America )
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To: gcparent

I know, its insane. Can get a whole chicken for $6.00- cooked already even. Can get uncooked chicken for even less. Chicken used to be one of the cheapest meals around... no longer.


31 posted on 09/10/2023 6:54:06 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: gcparent

And yep- we love the taste of it too- they do have recipes that taste simi,ar, but it’s the way it’s cooked at KFC that helps with the overall taste and moisture.

Usually when I’m out and hungry, I stop at McDonald’s and get 2 cheeseburgers which is about the cheapest on the menu, but once inawhile like to change it up and get chicken, but woe what a shock @ the prices


32 posted on 09/10/2023 6:58:08 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Libloather

How about if we sic the IRS on the entire Federal Government?


33 posted on 09/10/2023 7:16:33 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: Bernard

Yeah congress people. Most get social security while getting their paycheck. Pelosi. Mcconnell. Biden. Just to name a few.


34 posted on 09/10/2023 7:16:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Bernard

“So 49.6 of 66.7 million SS recipients are retired. That works out to 74.4%. So the other 25.6% are not retired but receive SS benefits anyway.”

The program is called OASDI — Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance. The “Old Age” part is the biggest. A worker who’s paid into the system can reach the retirement age and collect benefits.

If the worker dies young, leaving minor children, the children can collect Survivors benefits until they’re adults.

If the worker, before reaching retirement age, falls ill or is in an accident and can’t work any more, then Disability benefits kick in.

That’s why most Social Security recipients are retired but there are millions who aren’t. It’s not because of fraud or theft.


35 posted on 09/10/2023 7:18:07 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Prolixus

Bore’s lock box was useless. They had the key.


36 posted on 09/10/2023 7:23:40 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Prolixus

“The IOUs in the ‘lockbox’ ...”
I remember the “lockbox” b/s from the late 70’s or early 80’s when Social Security was to become un-solvent by the mid-2030s’ unless the IOU’s were paid up.


37 posted on 09/10/2023 7:27:15 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Libloather

don’t worry - everyone will get every penny promised to you by Social Security

The problem is, with inflation - it won’t even buy a loaf of bread.


38 posted on 09/10/2023 7:27:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Libloather

Does Congress have a big wheel of fortune on the floor with out SS slot.


39 posted on 09/10/2023 7:46:54 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Manic_Episode

Now, THAT is Hilarious


40 posted on 09/10/2023 7:48:06 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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