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My list of things to improve teaching and discipline:

1. Get rid of teacher's unions

2. Get back to basics of reading, writing and arithmetic. Get rid of DEI, and other indoctrination.

3. Cut back on the overhead.

4. Enforce testing standards, have a graduation exam.

5. Allow tax dollars to used for school choice.

1 posted on 08/12/2023 7:10:07 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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Plank #10 of the Communist Manifesto: Free education for all children in government schools.

http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html


2 posted on 08/12/2023 7:12:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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Studies show that authority and order tend to fall heaviest on students of color and low-income and disabled students

And therein is the elephant in the room.

3 posted on 08/12/2023 7:15:33 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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“Studies show that authority and order tend to fall heaviest on students of color and low-income and disabled students.”

Those are the ones who often need “discipline” the most. Not corporal discipline, but self discipline...learned.


4 posted on 08/12/2023 7:15:44 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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Studies show that authority and order tend to fall heaviest on students of color

Yes.

He who says "A", says "B".

6 posted on 08/12/2023 7:18:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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Add #6. Permanently expel disruptive students from public education.


7 posted on 08/12/2023 7:20:56 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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The writer's first suggestion was to remove the one year of graduate education required to obtain a teaching credential by folding it into a bachelor’s degree. Finland, Germany and other European countries require a master's to teach. Educators need more, not less, training.

Nonsense! The original bachelor's degree was a license to be an apprentice teacher. The master's degree was not granted after more course work but after successfully completing a number of years of teaching (see the present Oxford and Cambridge MA degrees). The present education degrees developed out of the normal schools which granted a teaching degree after two years of eduction. This was as an alternative to the four years needed for a BA. If someone cannot teach after four years of college, either they should not be in the classroom or the college does not know how to teach its students.

10 posted on 08/12/2023 7:26:01 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Add:

Allow kids to be paddled.

And:

Throw repeat offenders out for 2 weeks, then 2 months, then permanently.

Your list with my minor mods would solve 90% of our education problems and greatly improve teacher morale.


12 posted on 08/12/2023 7:27:45 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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6. Only hire 300 pound assistant principles named Mr. Bubba.


13 posted on 08/12/2023 7:29:12 AM PDT by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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Close the schools. If parents and kids do not value education then do not force taxpayers to pay for it. Let the idiots of the world be the servants of the educated. Let them be punished when they become disobedient.


14 posted on 08/12/2023 7:30:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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I’ve been listening to teachers complain about their salary for 30 years and it’s tiresome. The national median teacher’s pay in the US is $66,397, compared with a national median income of $54,132. And that’s with a 3 month vacation.


15 posted on 08/12/2023 7:34:39 AM PDT by fluffy
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None of this is new. Hall monitors at my high school were the city PD


17 posted on 08/12/2023 7:36:50 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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I agree with all but testing. Testing got us into this mess. Too much teaching to the test. It’s been a disaster.


24 posted on 08/12/2023 7:53:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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Teachers are explicitly told NOT to suspend “POCs” - if they are sent out of the classroom, they are often back within minutes to carry on destroying every else’s education with their disruption.

YOU as the teacher will be blamed.

The only solution is to get your kids OUT of the public schools, let them founder.


26 posted on 08/12/2023 8:03:28 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (What did Socialists use before Candles?..... Electricity)
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“Studies show that authority and order tend to fall heaviest on students of color and low-income and disabled students.”

I would bet that the "studies" did not consider single parent/dysfunctional households in the discriminants.

28 posted on 08/12/2023 8:11:57 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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> Studies show that authority and order tend to fall heaviest on students of color and low-income and disabled students.

Because those are the students who most need it. They sure as hell aren’t learning self-discipline or self-control at home. If their “parents” — or more often their single mother and her baby daddy d’jour — *had* any self-control, they wouldn’t *be* low-income. You can’t teach your kids what you yourself don’t know.

The decision to “mainstream” kids who should either be in reform school or institutionalized was also disastrous.

The biggest lie here is “students of color.” It isn’t about color. It’s about _class_. Give a kid two married middle-class parents who care about how the kid is doing in school and you’ll get about the same results, regardless of the color of their skin.


31 posted on 08/12/2023 8:19:40 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (If Black Lives Matter, explain Chicago. )
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In 8th grade I watched my teacher cold caulk an unruly kid. Man did he have discipline after that


32 posted on 08/12/2023 8:24:44 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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35 posted on 08/12/2023 8:37:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Good ideas.


36 posted on 08/12/2023 8:52:44 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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Bring back academic tracking. If you always teach to the average you'll bore the smart kids and frustrate those who are behind. In all liklihood without tracking the school will end up teaching to around the 30th percentile.

While looking for the term, I saw the usual gang of idiots arguing against tracking and even calling for eliminating it in high school with all the students taking the same classes, so no calculus for the college prep students or sticking with basic math and enough trig and geometry to do carpentry for the lower end.

39 posted on 08/12/2023 9:02:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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Not many outside of education understand what the federal control of education has done. After the Obama/Holder reforms, it is almost impossible to suspend a student, especially an acting out black child. To remove a student in most states requires enormous documentation and even then is damn near impossible. For special education ed/bd students it is even worse. The progressive states and federal Department of education have made it near impossible to remove ill behaving disruptive students. They don’t care that if you put a teaspoon of sewage in a barrel of wine, you have a barrel of sewage, and no one learns. Until the federal interference in education comes to an end,no reforms will work or matter.


40 posted on 08/12/2023 9:43:44 AM PDT by cyberstoic (I )
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