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Pilots Are Seeing Some Very Strange Things In Arizona’s Military Training Ranges
www.thedrive.com ^ | | PUBLISHED AUG 2, 2023 2:54 PM EDT | BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK, TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 08/04/2023 6:45:08 AM PDT by Red Badger

U.S. fighter jets are having worrisome aerial encounters in Arizona’s restricted air combat training areas, which fits with a broader trend.

Encounters with small unidentified "objects," sometimes in swarm-like groups of as many as eight. Sightings of other objects, including some characterized as drones, flying at altitudes up to 36,000 feet and as fast as Mach 0.75. Another apparent small drone actually hitting the canopy of an F-16 Viper causing damage. These incidents and many more, all occurred in or around various military air combat training ranges in Arizona since January 2020.

The events are described in reports from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) filed over roughly a three-year period. Overall, the data points to what are often categorized as drones, but many of which are actually unidentified objects, as well as what do appear to be drones, or uncrewed aerial systems (UAS), intruding into these restricted warning areas with alarming regularity.

Marc Cecotti, a contributor to The War Zone, has been able to obtain additional partially redacted reports about a number of these incidents from the U.S. Air Force's Safety Center via the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) that provide additional insights. Cecotti, together with Adam Kehoe, another one of our contributors, had first begun to notice a clustering of reports of unusual aerial encounters in southwestern Arizona back in 2021. An interactive online tool they created for The War Zone that leverages the FAA's public database of drone-related incident reports helped highlight that trend.

Arizona Is Host To Major Air Combat Training Areas When it comes to the Air Force, Arizona is home to Luke Air Force Base and Davis-Monthan Air Force Base. Luke has long been a major training hub for U.S. Air Force and foreign F-35 and F-16 pilots, though its work with the F-16 has been steadily diminishing in recent years. Davis-Monthan currently hosts units flying a variety of aircraft, including A-10 Warthog ground attack jets and EC-130H Compass Call electronic warfare planes, as well as the unit that oversees the U.S. military's famous boneyard that is part of the sprawling installation.

Units of the Arizona Air National Guard also operate from various bases in the southern end of the state. This includes Morris Air National Guard Base, which is collocated with Tucson International Airport in the city of the same name and that also hosts the Air National Guard-Air Force Reserve Command Test Center.

Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Yuma, a major test and training base for that service that hosts multiple F-35 squadrons, as well as units flying various other aircraft, is some 140 miles southwest of Luke.

Arizona has a number of major training ranges with restricted airspace, including significant areas adjacent to Luke AFB and MCAS Yuma. In fact, a large swathe of Arizona's border with Mexico sits under these ranges, including the Barry M. Goldwater range. There are a number of other designated Military Operating Areas (MOA), which can readily, if temporarily be closed off for training, elsewhere in the state. Restricted airspace and MOAs are all included in what the FAA more broadly refers to as Special Use Airspace (SUA).

The reports of unidentified objects, especially the ones involving groups of them flying together, are particularly interesting given the surge in interest in recent years in what are now often referred to as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), but have previously been more commonly known as unidentified flying objects (UFO).

Members of Congress are increasingly pushing for more declassification and general transparency from the U.S. military and Intelligence Community on these matters. These calls from legislators have only grown in the wake of allegations of a massive coverup from intelligence official and Air Force veteran turned whistleblower David Grusch, which you can read more about here.

Beyond all that, Arizona is, of course, no stranger to reports of unusual drone activity and UAP sightings. In 2016, a Tucson Police helicopter had an encounter with a mysteriously capable drone in the skies over that city. Some five years later, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection helicopter was involved in an incident with a similarly puzzling UAS.

The War Zone was the first to report on the worrying appearance of drone swarms over the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Arizona across multiple nights in September 2019. There's also the matter of the crews of an American Airlines flight and a Phoenix Air charter business jet reporting encounters with what appeared to be the same UAP in the skies over the southern part of the state near the border with New Mexico the year before. The state is home to the notorious Phoenix Lights mass sighting in 1997, which remains a topic of discussion to this day, too.

Incidents in Arizona have, in turn, long highlighted the growing threats that UASs present, including outside of traditional battlefields. This is something The War Zone has been highlighting as a very real concern now and still evolving issue for years now, including in the context of UAP discussions and how problematic it is that the two issues are so closely intertwined.

It should be noted up front that not all of the reports about incidents in the skies over U.S. military training areas in Arizona during the 2020-2023 timeframe are necessarily notable, at least based on the information currently in hand. Some part of the uptick in overall incidents can be explained by the growing prevalence of consumer-grade drones, something that has appeared in other similar data sets in the past.

At the same time, a number of the incidents that the FAA and the Air Force documented in the past three years include details that are very attention-grabbing.

The Reports There have been a number of encounters between military aircraft and what are described as groups of craft flying together in the past three years or so in this specific part of the United States. For instance, on March 29, 2021, two pilots flying F-35s in the vicinity of Buckeye, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix, made a report about "3 to 4 UAS off [the] right side while e[ast] bound at 17,000 feet," according to the FAA. On April 22, 2022, another F-35 pilot reported "8 silver UAS [at an altitude of] between 16,000 and 20,000 feet" in the vicinity of Glendale, Arizona, another Phoenix suburb, another entry in the FAA's logs says.

It should be noted up front that not all of the reports about incidents in the skies over U.S. military training areas in Arizona during the 2020-2023 timeframe are necessarily notable, at least based on the information currently in hand. Some part of the uptick in overall incidents can be explained by the growing prevalence of consumer-grade drones, something that has appeared in other similar data sets in the past.

At the same time, a number of the incidents that the FAA and the Air Force documented in the past three years include details that are very attention-grabbing.

The Reports There have been a number of encounters between military aircraft and what are described as groups of craft flying together in the past three years or so in this specific part of the United States. For instance, on March 29, 2021, two pilots flying F-35s in the vicinity of Buckeye, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix, made a report about "3 to 4 UAS off [the] right side while e[ast] bound at 17,000 feet," according to the FAA. On April 22, 2022, another F-35 pilot reported "8 silver UAS [at an altitude of] between 16,000 and 20,000 feet" in the vicinity of Glendale, Arizona, another Phoenix suburb, another entry in the FAA's logs says.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; UFO's
KEYWORDS: 2016; 201909; 2021; 202103; 20210329; 202204; 20220422; drones; isolatedincidents; pic
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To: Red Badger

These incidents and many more, all occurred in or around various military air combat training ranges.

Gee Moe wonder why China is buying massive amounts a land around them.


41 posted on 08/04/2023 8:49:34 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Red Badger

“Pilots Are Seeing Some Very Strange Things In Arizona’s Military Training Ranges”

Great! With all the money spent on defense it is encouraging to hear about game changing technology being tested by our military.


42 posted on 08/04/2023 8:57:28 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: null and void

I think you are spot on. UFO’s are humans, playing at aliens. Maybe a bit of help from the Demonic.


43 posted on 08/04/2023 8:57:41 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Glad2bnuts

A LOT of help from the Demonic.

Even an agnostic can see that.


44 posted on 08/04/2023 9:10:38 AM PDT by null and void (Intelligence has limits, while gullibility doesn't. ~ SunkenCiv)
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To: OHPatriot

AC is what?


45 posted on 08/04/2023 10:05:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: OHPatriot

AC, aircraft?


46 posted on 08/04/2023 10:07:20 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PIF

Actually you are very wrong. I had my own experience years ago and at this point I dont see the whole subject all that much of a bfd.


47 posted on 08/04/2023 10:07:59 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

OK ....


48 posted on 08/04/2023 10:16:14 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: KC Burke

Where’s all the video game junkies that are between 10 and 35 years old ? They don’t need much training. God knows we’ve got no shortage of them !!!


49 posted on 08/04/2023 10:29:27 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: Red Badger
...an F-16 Viper...

Complete side issue, but when did they start calling F-16s "Vipers?"

I worked on F-16s from 1986-1990 and never heard them called that. Not at the Tech Rep school and not on the flightline.

50 posted on 08/04/2023 10:34:51 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Mr.Unique

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16v-viper-fighting-falcon-multi-role-fighter/


51 posted on 08/04/2023 10:38:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Sightings of other objects, including some characterized as drones, flying at altitudes up to 36,000 feet and as fast as Mach 0.75.

Does DJI have a new model out?

I want one!!

52 posted on 08/04/2023 10:39:00 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: grobdriver

Stark Industries.....................


53 posted on 08/04/2023 10:40:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dragnet2

Yes AC - Air Craft (Manned or Unmanned)


54 posted on 08/04/2023 10:58:29 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: OHPatriot

Aircraft is spelled as one word not two. Btw, aircraft require air to operate, takeoff, maneuver and stay in the air. Based on reports, radar tracks and videos, some of these UFOs clearly are not using air to operate. The physics are all wrong. No bueno.


55 posted on 08/04/2023 11:08:40 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks.

I’ve never seen F-16s in the US inventory designated as V, only A, B, C, CJ, D, & N.


56 posted on 08/04/2023 11:18:47 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Mr.Unique

They are running out of letters.................


57 posted on 08/04/2023 11:20:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Mr.Unique

F-16 V block after 2012 are called Vipers. Confusing.


58 posted on 08/04/2023 1:09:25 PM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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To: mabarker1

Except for the UAPs flying into and out of the mesa. That seems to be a busy area.


59 posted on 08/04/2023 7:48:15 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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60 posted on 08/04/2023 9:40:30 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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