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The Total FAILURE of Ukraine's Offensive Results in HEAVY Losses Video—16 min
Youtube ^ | 7/16/2023 | Webb Union

Posted on 07/17/2023 3:57:32 AM PDT by Phoenix8

It’s a video—not easy to copy and paste coherent transcripts (you can click the link and see them yourself)

Summary: the great Ukr summer offensive of 2023 is a failure

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: ukrainewar
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To: tlozo

So you would prefer a true break through of the Ukr line and a Russian drive to the Polish border?

Because you know that’s a very real possibility if peace is not achieved.


21 posted on 07/17/2023 5:07:32 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8
So you would prefer a true break through of the Ukr line and a Russian drive to the Polish border?

Russians took 8 months to take one insignificant town, Bakhmut. Not sure how they will "drive to the Polish border".

23 posted on 07/17/2023 6:00:19 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: WellyP

Kerch Bridge GONE, both traffic lanes taken out, it appears the railroad section is still functional. Always give your enemy a way to retreat!


24 posted on 07/17/2023 6:03:31 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: tlozo

Because according to most sources Ukraine is being degraded.

Even the White House has admitted they are running out of munitions, they are suffering disproportionate casualties (according to most unbiased sources I watch) and a large % of their population base has fled the country.

Russia is 4x their population and has a stronger economic base. Some will most likely reply with something like “Russia is weak, inept and tottering on the edge of disaster”—-I will reply with : “then why is the offensive failing so miserably?”.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/biden-lets-slip-during-interview-us-low-on-artillery-ammunition-rounds-as-it-tries-to-aid-ukraine/


25 posted on 07/17/2023 6:22:36 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: JonPreston
26,000 Ukrainian KIAs/missing in the past 5 weeks.

Let me guess, that's from the Russian Ministry of Psyops talking points.

Do you have any source for that?

26 posted on 07/17/2023 6:34:20 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: JonPreston
I know from experience they lie not just sometimes, but all the time.

That may be true of Democrats, but why would you want to play along and do the same thing?

27 posted on 07/17/2023 6:35:26 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Phoenix8

Yeah, duh. Despite all the fawning coverage of uke drones, capabilities, etc., they didn’t even have intel on the minefields.

It was doomed to fail from the outset absent an escalation between Russia and NATO.

Frankly, I’m rather taken aback that a false flag hasn’t occurred before now.


28 posted on 07/17/2023 6:41:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: AndyJackson
"...that was baked into Nuland’s strategic fiasco the moment they thought it up."

Ummm...

"...that was baked into Nuland’s strategic fiasco the moment they thought cooked it up.

There. ;-)

29 posted on 07/17/2023 6:44:10 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: freeandfreezing
That may be true of Democrats

When are you going to grow weary of supporting Republicans? Didn't Tucker's evisceration of your boy Pence open your eyes?

30 posted on 07/17/2023 7:02:23 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Phoenix8
Because according to most sources Ukraine is being degraded.

Even the White House has admitted they are running out of munitions

Cluster munitions are being sent, long range ground attack missiles are being sent by England and France, pilots will be trained for F16's, and the West will ramp up 155 artillery shell production which will surpass the russian output in a year.

31 posted on 07/17/2023 9:05:10 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Phoenix8

“Trust Russia. With their solid track record of sticking to their word and being a good neighbor, Ukraine should just let it go and live in peace with their giant, friendly neighbor.”

OK Putin loving Freepers, there is a good quote for you to run with today while you continue to “mourn” the death of Ukraine.


32 posted on 07/17/2023 11:36:03 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Phoenix8

The offensive is taking place behind the entrenched Russian defensive lines

The Russian logistics are systematically being destroyed which eliminates the effectiveness of the defenses and doesn’t shed Ukranian blood.

Simultaneously, the Russian command structure is flailing around searching for how to recover from their debacle


33 posted on 07/17/2023 11:40:56 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert

That is the very first time I’ve ever heard that.

Please show a source because I’ve been watching daily and I’ve never seen anything about a significant breakthrough whine the 3 Russ MLRs…or even 1 for that matter.


34 posted on 07/17/2023 12:16:28 PM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: logi_cal869
cooked it up

I very mcuh appreciate the correction that now avoids a mixed metaphor. I will endevor to take this to heart and avoid such an error again in the future.

35 posted on 07/17/2023 2:43:33 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Hey: No critique here. Just amusing myself during a stressful day.


36 posted on 07/17/2023 4:58:14 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

So am I. I enjoy the verbal jousting and the wit expressed.


37 posted on 07/17/2023 5:15:41 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

;-)


38 posted on 07/17/2023 6:46:45 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Phoenix8

Check out you tube. there are several sources providing more detail than a few words in my post

Some are propaganda but there are others with news

The American media can’t be relied on


39 posted on 07/18/2023 5:27:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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