Posted on 07/09/2023 2:19:10 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Help me formulate a good argument that cancel culture is not the same thing as our conservative boycott of Bud Light, target and Disney.
I don't think they're the same.
Cancel culture is opposition to any opposing voice.
In my mind our boycotting is not an opposition to alternative viewpoints , but opposition to immoral targeting of children.
Thank you.
That is true.
Well stated, IMO.
>> cancel culture vs boycott
Cancel Culture aims to silence the individual’s career and speech typically through character assassination. Boycotts take aim at the seller of materials the consumer refuses to purchase. The former is hostile aggression against an individual. The latter is passive aggression against a corporation.
Cancel Culture is far broader than boycotting. It is no less than the revision of history, a la Orwell’s 1984. It is destruction of a symbol, or icon, by revision — framing it in a very pejorative way, and attacking it, w/o basis in fact.
Boycotting Bud Light is not that. Instead, it is reacting negatively to a faux pas, such as Edmund Muskie crying on the courthouse steps, or Dukakis in his macho tank moment (or eschewing the death penalty even for someone who raped his wife). That is not cancel culture. That is merely poor messaging.
Big difference.
Cancel culture aims, through confrontation and intimidation, to eliminate every point of view with which leftoids disagree; to the point that those who hold those views are destroyed socially, economically, personally and, possibly, physically.
The idea being to annihilate all opposition.
Those who boycott Bud Light and Disney are simply choosing to spend their money elsewhere, with the effect of crippling the brands economically.
The idea being that these brands are free to continue to do as they please, but not with my money.
Huge difference.
Nope! Totally disagree whole heartedly.
Cancel culture is the destruction of a person or business who holds a different moral or immoral opinion than you.
Cancel culture does not provide a public choice in the matter.
Boycotts on the other hand are people simply choosing to not do business with or purchase from an entity. At no point does a boycott interfere with the publics ability to choose.
It has been said that the plural of anecdote is data.
Individual choices, not being led by a "leader" much less a :dear leader" and not being involved in taking away another's choice cannot be even a boycott.
Case in point: My wife and I spend decades as legal residents of Germany, and some of our favorite breweries were small and local. Therefore WE cannot participate in any Bud Lite "cancel" event, because we haven't ever "enjoyed" the swill which passes for American "lite" beer. Even these days, we buy German beer, at prices far above what Mulvaney Lite is being sold for, promoted by a transvestite con artist. Ditto for Disney, as the new junk is junk. (We have the original Soung of the South, before editing out the 'insensitive' scenes.) Making an individual buying decision is individual. Not part of a "movement," unless you say it is. Bud Lite is piss water, and Disney turning queer -- their term -- generates a buying preference to NOT BUY. To walk away.
Any one trying to tell you an individual preference -- yes, discrimination between products, vendors, media and the like -- is some how offensive to THEM needs the obvious response. Walk away. And even once "walk away" became a small political statement, which the "cancel" and "censorship" types hated.
Cancel culture cannot be the same thing as a bunch of individuals adding up to a boycott, because one thing is demonstrable. "They" want to force you to do / believe / accept their terms, when there isn't even an open negotiation.
"Do as I say!" Nah, walk away.
2 arguments:
1) Not so fun being the recipient is it?
2) cancel culture is an ACTIVE process of REMOVING and DOXING people and ideas which do not adhere to the leftist narrative.
This is just choosing to NOT use money on a product. To say it is cancel culture would mean there is an affirmative requirement to purchase the product. There is no such requirement.
Cancel culture involves the threat and use of administrative force. It is tyranny by a minority who appeal to authority to silence and destroy their critics. The majority is coerced into compliance.
A boycott involves the will of the people to shun that with which they disagree. It’s a democratic process for change. The minority is encouraged to conform to cultural norms by market forces.
Not the same.
Yes, it’s different. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.
Cancel culture involves demanding that someone else do something to stifle a voice you don’t like. Grass roots boycotts involve people individually choosing not to do business with a person or company.
When you shriek that “so and so” should be fired because ______ (insert cause du jour), it’s cancel culture. When you say “I’ll not be buying bud light anymore.” it’s a grass roots boycott.
I prefer boycott.
I still buy icecream, just not Unlilever’s.
Razors, just not Gillette’s.
Coffee, just not Starbucks.
Cola, just not Coke’s.
I still buy, so it’s a buycott..
See how simple that is? 😁
I prefer buycott.
That’s buycott, bloody spell checker...
Grrrrr...
Whereas your typical liberal boycott requires some number of influencers seeking out whatever they can find to be offended by and using their influence to "spread the word", with any number of hangers-on aping the sentiment. Not that carburetor rebuilders are deep thinkers, but the hangers-on of lib boycotts aren't committed. They're just TikTokking their afternoon away and wouldn't give a crap if they were not encouraged by whatever stupid influencer they believe has clout. It's just a momentary contact high for them. That is why those boycotts typically fade out over time.
Besides all of that, the BL thing isn't a "conservative" thing, it's just a male thing, or a cis-male thing. These boycotters aren't out to become offended at some slight or slip of the tongue.
Opposing perverts who are seeking sex with innocent children is not the same thing as going after someone because of their political or social opinions. Not even close. The first is a crime and why the Drs mutilating children haven’t been arrested and hanged under Nuremberg rules is a crime in itself.
Conservatives say we won’t buy your products.
Leftist cancel culture says you don’t have a right to exist.
Conservatives are for civilized culture and against destroying civilization as we know it. We believe our rights come from our Creator.
Basically good versus evil. Don't support evil.
Thank you freepers.
Excellent points made on cancel culture versus boycotting.
I found the article you’re referencing in psychology today
Thank you
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-science-behind-behavior/202007/what-is-cancel-culture
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